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  1. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part One; In The Beginnning] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- =============================<TABLE OF CONTENTS>============================= I. Part One; In The Beginning (You're readin' it!) A. Introduction B. The Questions 1. What exactly is alt.sex.bestiality here for anyways? 2. What is bestiality? Zoophilia? 3. Do people on this newsgroup actually have sexual relations with animals? 4. How many people have sex with animals? 5. What is considered an acceptable post on this newsgroup? 6. Isn't sex with animals unethical? Blasphemous? Cruel? 7. Can I make my animal pregnant by having sex with her? 8. Is there a way to meet others from A.S.Best? 9. Is there a way to post anonymously? 10. How can I get started having sex with my dog? Horse? Platypus? 11. Is there an ftp site for zoo GIFs or archives of alt.sex.bestiality? 12. Are there any zoophile meeting places? II. Part Two; Zoophilia and The Law; Today A. Introduction B. State Laws in the U.S. C. Laws in Other Countries D. Federal Laws in the U.S. Regarding Bestiality 1. Introduction 2. The Roth Test 3. United States Code Chapter 71; Obscenity E. The History of Zoophilia in the Law III. Part Three; Zoophilia and The Law; History A. Introduction B. Case Studies IV. Part Four; Zoophilia and Your Health A. Introduction B. Contagious Animal Health Problems 1. Auto-Immune Deficiency Syndrome, (AIDS) 2. Lyme Disease 3. Toxoplasma 4. Urinary Tract Infections, (UTIs) 5. Canine Brucellosis 6. Parasites V. Part Five; Zoophilia in Music, Art and Literature A. Music 1. Vintage Vinyl B. Art 1. The performing arts 2. On the silver screen 3. Hangin' on the wall C. Literature 1. On the ASBest Sellers List 2. Poetry and Prose VI. Part Six; How To; Equines A. How to have more fun with your stallion B. Helpful Tips; Stallions C. How to have more fun with your mare D. Helpful Tips; Mares VII. Part Seven; How To; Canines A. Guide to Bitches 1. Getting Started 2. The right bitch for you 3. Preparation is the key! 4. In the trenches 5. Out of heat and spayed bitches 6. Anal sex B. Guide to Dogs 1. Anal sex with dogs; On the receiving end 2. Anal sex with dogs; Giving 3. Oral sex with dogs; On the reveiving end 4. Oral sex with dogs; Giving 5. Oral sex with dogs; Neutered males 6. Docking 7. What does dog semen have in it? 8. How long is a dog's penis? VIII. Part Eight; Tanith's ScalySex FAQ =============================<A - INTRODUCTION>============================== Welcome to alt.sex.bestiality! Many of you are probably wondering about this newsgroup and / or may have lurked for a while watching the numerous messages pass through this forum. As you may have seen, topics here are diverse, ranging from vegatarianism to religion and from politics to accounts of personal experiences, but all topics here relate to bestiality and / or zoophilia...normally <grin>. Alt.sex.bestiality isn't moderated so we are prone to off topic posts, but generally we run a good ship! You are asked to please refrain from making off topic posts or responding to them. You are expected to act maturely, to post responsibly, and to follow the guidelines of 'netiquette'. If you do so, you shall be welcomed warmly! Onto the questions though. This -is- an F.A.Q.! :^) =============================<B - THE QUESTIONS>============================= 1 - What exactly is alt.sex.bestiality here for anyways? - ---------------------------------------------------- Have a question about your pets' sexual behaviour? Have a question about how to have a safe and mutually pleasing sexual relationship with your animal companion(s)? Maybe you're just curious about -why-? That's what A.S.Best is here for, as well as anything else you may wish to ask about or talk about related to inter-species sexual relations. Even if you need to talk to someone about being an animal lover, that's part of what A.S.Best is here for as well. Many beastialists/zoos here have already felt and dealt with the pressure of being in the minority and are very willing to help out a fellow animal lover. Besides being a discussion forum, A.S.Best also serves as a site where zoos and bestialists can often find stories and infomation about sexual contact with animals. 2 - What is bestiality? Zoophilia? - ------------------------------- Bestiality is, by textbook definition, sexual contact between a human being and a non-human animal. Zoophilia is, by textbook definition, an emotional attachment to an animal that causes a human being to prefer a non-human animal as a companion and / or a sexual partner. These definitions are generally accepted around here Many zoophiles have extremely close, emotional relationships with their non-human partners and many bestialists enjoy the pleasure they can give and receive from their lovers. 3 - Do people on this newsgroup actually have sexual relations with animals? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You bet'cha! :^) Many here are quite proud of that fact as well! There are also many here who have not had any sexual contact with animals but who are eager to do so. There are also those who are not interested in having sex with animals but enjoy the stories and discussion on this newsgroup. All are welcomed and encouraged to contribute. 4 - How many people have sex with animals? - -------------------------------------- [ This section written by Redvane Fox (redvane@atheling.demon.co.uk) ] There have been various studies but to my mind they are all flawed or dated. The most famous is that of Alfred Kinsey et al in the late 40's / early 50's USA which reported that 8 percent of men and 3.5 percent of women had "on some occasion, had sexual contact with an animal." In some rural areas, the figures for males were as high as 50 percent. However, this was a time when the chances of a 16-year-old farmer's son getting a human partner to do more than hold hands was virtually nil. Thus, animal contacts would have been more common then than now. Also, given the decline of farming in America and Europe and the increasing urbanisation of populations, I would venture a guess that there are somewhere in the region of 2 to 4 percent of men have had some sort of sexual experience with a non-human. Masters and Johnson reported less than 2 percent of women had sexual contact with an animal (dogs mainly) but others have estimated that the true figure was probably higher (let's face it, if someone comes up to you and asks "Do you fuck animals?" would you give them a straight answer?) It's also important to know that for very many people who do have sex with a non-human in, say, adolescence, they don't carry it on into adulthood - it's a teenage experiment, part of exploring the wonderful world of sex. Two of my friends have (over much beer) admitted to me that they've "played around" with animals when they were teenagers but went on to have "normal" hetero partnerships (although they both said they had no regrets and might try it again if the circumstances were right). Of people who have had sex with animals once, liked it and stayed or those whose attraction to animals was there from the very beginning is perhaps less than 0.1 percent of the population. To quote Midas Dekker's "Dearest Pet": "Earlier in this chapter I estimated the percentage of human beings that have sexual experiences with animals at a few percent. If you include in bestiality only the people who have sex *exclusively* with animals then the percentage falls far below 1 percent. Bestiality requires imagination and people with imagination usually have no flies on them. On the other hand, if you drop the requirement that for sexual contact something has to be inserted somewhere and that something has to be fiddled with and it is sufficient simply to cuddle, to derive a warm feeling from each other, to kiss perhaps at times, in brief to love, then bestiality is not a deviation but the general rule, not even shameful, but the *done thing*. After all, who does not wish to be called an animal lover?" 5 - What is considered an acceptable post on this newsgroup? - -------------------------------------------------------- We ask, of course, that you first of all, remain on topic, (Refer to #1 if you have questions about what is on topic.). Please post responsibly. This means please do not flame! Intelligent, mature statements will be regarded and responded to in a like manner. GRAPHIC IMAGES (GIFs, JPEGs, etc.) ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE HERE. Please post all graphics images to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.bestiality. If you do not receive a.b.p.e.b., you can post to alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless. I repeat, do not post them here. Erotic texts (stories) are acceptable material but please try and not post too much material all at once. Otherwise, feel free to join in the conversation or start up at thread of your own. We don't bite...hard 6 - Isn't sex with animals unethical? Blasphemous? Cruel? - ------------------------------------------------------ This topic is often discussed on A.S.Best because it concerns many here as well as those who stumble onto this group. A.S.Best often receives flames from those who believe bestiality must involve cruelty or who believe it's unethical for any number of other reasons. At times like these, the people here have overwhelmingly voiced their disapproval for those who do abuse animals and have defended the love they have for their partners with a vast number of viewpoints, backgrounds, and platforms. The discussions on this topic remains quite verbose though and has no place in this F.A.Q.. If you do wish to get a discussion going on this topic, or any other for that matter, do feel free to do so as long as it is done in a responsible and respectful manner. You'll find so long as you conduct yourself reasonably, your viewpoints will be respected and addressed intelligently. 7 - Can I make my animal pregnant by having sex with her? - ----------------------------------------------------- Absolutely not. Because of things like chromosome counts, body temperatures and genetic codes, human animals cannot impregnate other animals. However, if you do wind up impregnating your lover, call me immediately! I could make, err, make you, a bundle selling your story to the tabloids! <grin> 8 - Is there a way to meet with others from A.S.Best? - ------------------------------------------------- If you'd like to meet other animal lovers in your area who may be reading A.S.Best, you can post a message indicating where abouts you are. It is strongly advised you not be too specific though, (by giving info like street addresses or city names.). Information such as your home address and / or telephone number should be reserved for private mail correspondence once you feel comfortable with the person(s) who may contact you. 9 - Is there a way to post anonymously? - ----------------------------------- [ This section written by Zippo (zippo@io.org) ] The anon.penet.fi server (which is in Finland.. hence the .fi) takes your mail, strips off your address, replaces it with an annonymous account # and then either posts or re-mails it for you. It's pretty foolproof and people can even send mail back to you by mailing their reply to your anon account #. But it relies upon the integrety of what ever servers your mail has to go thru to get to and from the anon.penet.fi server. If anyone reads your mail they can identify you.. but with the volume of mail that passes thru most servers it would probably be hard for an unscrupulous sysop to pick you mail out of the flood. To set up an anon account at anon.penet.fi you mail them the following message: To: ping@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <anything> ---------------------------------- <anything> (note: the row of "-" represents where the body of the text in the mail starts.) If you want to set up an account AND get a guide book from the person operating the system send: To: help@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <anything> ---------------------------------- <anything> This will also set up your anon account if you dont already have one. You can now use your account to post and send e-mail anonymously. To do that you send the following type of message: To: anon@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <anything> ---------------------------------- X-Anon-To: <the address or usenet group name you want to post to> <the body of text that you want posted> Simple non? The "X-Anon-To:" part _has_ to the first line in the body of your text, and that tells the server where to re-direct you mail to. If you want to post to several recipients you seperate their addresses with a ", " and the server will send your mail to each of them. If you want to set up a nickname that will get added to your anon account # when you mail or post send the following message: To: nick@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <your desired nickname> ---------------------------------- <anything> The name you enter as the "Sub:" line will become your nick name and will be printed as part of the "From:" line when the anon server posts your mail. You can also get a password to your account.. post the following: To: password@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <anything> ---------------------------------- <your desired password> Whatever text you've entered as the first line of text in your mail becomes your password. Keeping this to 8 characters or so would probably be a good idea. You use your password like this: To: anon@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <anything> ---------------------------------- X-Anon-To: <the address or usenet group name you want to post to> X-Anon-Password: <your password> <the body of text that you want posted> You can remove your password but I cant quite follow the instructions on how to do it.. here they are verbatum from the help text that I recived a while back: > If you find this is too much of a hassle, and don't care too much > about the confidentiality of your anon id, you can set the password > to "none", in which case the server doesn't require you to have a > password. The problem I have here is I cant tell if they want you to mail to password@anon.penet.fi as you did to set up the password, or if you send mail to anon@anon.penet.fi with the "X-Anon-Password:" text as "none" or some combination of the two. The last thing you need to know about anon.penet.fi is how to get in touch with the sysop. Mail to him like this: To: admin@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <anything> ---------------------------------- <your message> Or if you wish to be anonymous to the sysop you can mail: To: anon@anon.penet.fi From: <your real name / address> Sub: <anything> ---------------------------------- X-Anon-To: an0@anon.penet.fi <your message> I recomend that you send a message to help@anon.penet.fi to get the instruction text from the server. It has some additinal texts about the suggested use of the server, info on other languages and perhapse will cover something important that I missed out. Nuff said. 10 - How can I get started having sex with my dog? Horse? Platypus? :^) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- We finally have a 'how to' section of the FAQ! Okay, it's mostly my fault for just not editing the stuff I've had wasting away on my hard drive for the last couple of weeks but, contrary to popular belief, my entire life does -not- revolve around this place :> Anyhow, for how to info, refer to 'How to; Equines.' 'How to; Canines' will be a regular part of this FAQ by the first of next month. If you would like to contribute your own knowledge about the critter of your affections, please write me to express your interest! 11 - Is there an ftp site for zoo GIFs or archives of alt.sex.bestiality? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Currently, there is no known ftp site containing graphics images of zoo related materials. The official alt.sex.bestiality archivist is Ima Zoo (imazoo@vnet.net). Contact him for further information or for copies of materials archived. The official archiving began 13 March, 1995. 12 - Are there any zoophile meeting places? -- -------------------------------------- If you have access to the Internet Relay Chat, (IRC), try going to channels #beastsex or #pasture. Other variations on these names do occur--some common ones are #dogsex, #horsesex, etcetera--so keep on the lookout. There are also some talkers which can be telnetted to. Their addresses are as follows; - The Forest at 129.49.20.21 5010; - Zoo Central at 192.108.254.10 5010; and - Lintilla at 130.235.88.95 5010. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part Two; Zoophilia and The Law; Today] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Compiled by Dillillith, Shuunka Tanka, (shuunka@netcom.com) Philo Therion, (an32303@anon.penet.fi), Phalinx, Satyrs@netcom.com, Megadog, (megadog@dogstar.win-uk.net) and SteppenWolf, (brianac@unix.ubc.edu) ] =============================<A - INTRODUCTION>============================== Suggestions for finding laws not listed here: 1. Go to your local library and ask where your countries statues or laws are. 2. Look through the statues volumes for the ones labeled General Index. 3. Open up the volume(s) and look-up the heading "Animals" look and see if that section contains a sub-heading of "Bestiality" also check under the sub-heading "Crimes & Offences" and under that heading search for "Sexual Abuse" or "Sexually Assaulting Animals" You might also look up the sub-heading "Cruelty" to see if it has anything. Look up the heading "Bestiality" Look up the heading "Sexual Offences" look for the sub-heading of "Bestiality" & "Animal Contact" & "Sexually Assaulting Animals" You might also find it under the sub-heading "Unnatural/perverted acts" or "Buggery" There is also a small chance you may find something under the humane laws headings. You may also want to check any other sub-headings that you suspect may contain information on bestiality. 4. Record the statue number under the subheading. It may be in various forms: $$ ##.##.### or ##-##-##.### or ###.### or others. 5. On the back of the state statue volumes you will find Title or Chapter numbers in the form: ## to ##. These numbers are different from the volume numbers. They usually will correspond to the statue's Title or Chapter numbers. Example: ##.##.### `| |___| Title or Chapter' L Section 6. Find the volume that contains the Title number that is the same as the first number in the statue number. 7. If you can not find the law, then it may be that your area does not have any specific law about bestiality. However, this does not mean the your area can't charge a person under another law that may consider fits the situation such as indecent exposure, cruelty to animals, or another law. Other Points on Laws: - Having sex with someone else's animal without the owner's permission is a crime against property, the same as if someone "borrowed" his horse to haul their carriage without his permission. Remember that horse thievery was a hangin' offense in the old West. - Sex in public is "open and gross lewdness." People have been prosecuted for ordinary sex in a fenced-in backyard and even in a bedroom with the shades up, on the basis that a child *could have* climbed the fence or looked in the window and seen something. - Sometimes prosecutors are imaginative, and will creatively apply irrelevant laws. For instance, statutory rape if the animal is less than 18 years old. - Exposing a child to bestiality is considered child abuse/sexual abuse in many states. If someone leaves a tape in a VCR and a child hits play and sees it, that may be considered exposure. - There may be something in the obscenity laws regarding bestial acts on video tapes. - In many states even where bestiality is legal, it IS legally grounds for divorce. - To really know the legality, you would have to look at court cases in your area to see how judges define the laws and whether the law has been enforced at all and whether acts between humans are equivalent to acts between a human and an animal. ***************************************************************************** DISCLAIMER: Neither Dillillith, Shuunka Tanka, Phalinx, Philo Therion, Steppenwolf, the Satyrs, nor MegaDog are responsible for any errors in this list. _SO_ if anyone is aware of any error then PLEASE post and point out the error. If you are leery, then take the responsibility yourself and go to your local library to look it up yourself. Thanks. ***************************************************************************** ========================<B - STATE LAWS IN THE U.S.>========================= VAR - Verification of information. Most state/countries laws are only located in that states/countries local libraries. So only some laws have been confirmed through research. Others are given by word of mouth and some have not been researched at all. C = Confirmed and verifyed laws. W = laws given by word of mouth (or computer) - = Laws not known. LAW - Is their a specific law against bestiality in that state/country. NONE = No specific law found against bestiality YES = Law found regarding bestiality. SN - Statute Number. If a law has been found this is the state/country's statute number it was found under. PEN - Penalty classification for violating the law. This may vary between states/countries. PT = Prison time STATE/COUNTRY VAR LAW SN PEN USA LAWS Alabama: C YES Code of Ala. @13A-6-63 "sodomy in the 1st degree" (1994) criminal offense. Alaska: C NONE Arizona: C NONE Arkansas: C YES Ark. Stat. Ann. Criminal Offense: @13A-6-63 (1994) "sodomy in 1st degree" California: C YES Penal Code Section 286.5 Misdemeanor Colorado: C NONE Connecticut: C NONE Delaware: C YES 11 Del. C. @777 (1993) Class D Criminal felony. Florida: C NONE Georgia: C YES O.C.G.A. @16-6-6 (1994) 1-5 yr. jail sentence. Hawaii: C NONE Idaho: C YES Idaho Code @18-6605 "length of imprisonment in (1994) excess of 5 years is left to discretion of court." Illinois: C YES 720 ILCS 5/12-12 (1994) Crime. Indiana: C YES Burn Ind. Code. Ann. @35-42-4-2 (1994) Iowa: C NONE Kansas: C YES K.S.A. @2103506 (1993) Aggravated criminal sodomy security level2, felony Kentucky: C NONE Louisiana: C NONE Maine: C YES 17-A M.R.S. @ 251 (1994) Class C Crime; 3-5 years Maryland: C YES Unnatural/Perverted up to $1,000 fine, Sexual Acts Article 27, Max of 10 years PT Section 553 Massachusetts: C YES Mass. Ann. Laws. Jail sentence of not ch. 272 @34 (1994) more than 20 years Michigan: C YES MCL @750.185 (1992) Jail sentence of not more than 15 years Minnessota: C YES Minn. Stat. @609.294, Either fine of not more (1993) than $3,000 or sentence of not more than 1 year. Mississippi: C YES Miss. Code. Ann., Sentence of not more than @97-29-59 10 years. Missouri: C NONE Montana: C YES Mont. Code. Ann., 10 year sentence and/or @45-5-505 (1994) $50,000 fine. Nebraska: C NONE Nevada: C NONE New Hampshire: C NONE New Jersey: C NONE New Mexico: C NONE New York: C YES NY CLS Penal @130.20 Class A misdemeanor. (1994) North Carolina: C YES N.C. Gen. Stat. @14-177 Class I felony.3-10 years (1994) North Dakota: C YES N.D. Cent. Code Various penalties, and can @12.1-20-03, 12.1-20-07, be considered either 12.1-20-12(1993) "gross sexual imposition," "sexual assault" or "deviate sexual act" Ohio: C NONE Oklahoma: C YES 21 Okl. St. @886 (1994) "imprisonment not to exceed 10 years" Oregon: C NONE Pennsylvania: C YES 18 Pa. C. S. @3101, 3123 and 3124 (1994) Rhode Island: C YES R.I. Gen. Laws @11-10-1 7-20 years. (1993) South Carolina: C YES S.C. Code Ann. 5yrs.jail and/or fine of @16-15-120 (1993) at least $500 South Dakota: C NONE Tennessee: C YES Tenn. Code. Ann. @39-13-501 (1994) Texas: C NONE Utah: C YES Bestiality 76-9-301.8 Class B Misdemeanor Vermont: C NONE Virginia: C YES Va. Code. Ann. Class 6 Felony @18.2-361 (1994) Washington: C NONE Washington DC: C YES DC Code @22-3502 (1994) Fine not more than $1,000 ("Sexual Psychopath" and/or sentence of not chapter) more than 10 yrs West Virginia: C NONE Wisconsin: C YES Wis. State. @944.17 None listed (1993) Wyoming: C NONE ========================<C - LAWS IN OTHER COUNTRIES>======================== Canada: C YES Criminal Code of Canada Approx. 10 years Section 153 Denmark: W NONE Finland: W YES - - New Zealand: C YES Crimes Act of 1964 Maximum 7 years PT Section 143 & 144 Switzerland: W NONE United Kingdom: C YES Sexual Offences Act of Life imprisonment 1956, Section 12(1) typically 30 years Sexual Offences Act of 1967, Section 3(1) =============<D - FEDERAL LAWS OF THE U.S. REGARDING BESTIALITY>============= 1 - Introduction - ------------ There is no *federal* law which prohibits sex between humans and animals. There are a few federal laws, however, which list bestiality, along with many other forms of sex, which are prohibited when invloving children (18 USCS @2256, 3509 (1994) ). 2 - The Roth Test - ------------- In 1957 the U.S. Supreme Court developed the "Roth Test" to define "obscenity." The Roth Test requires that the court ask "whether to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material taken as a whole appeals to prurient interest" Roth v. United States, 354 US 476, 1. Since the Roth decision, the Supreme Court has added that such material must be utterly without redeeming social values. 3 - United States Code Chapter 71; Obscenity - ---------------------------------------- Section Content ------- ------- 1460 Possession with intent to sell, and sale, of obscene matter on Federal property 1461 Mailing obscene or crime-inciting matter 1462 Importation or transportation of obscene matters 1463 Mailing indecent matter on wrappers or envelopes 1464 Broadcasting obscene language 1465 Transportation of obscene matters for sale or distribution 1466 Engaging in the business of selling or transferring obscene matter 1467 Criminal forfeiture 1468 Distributing obscene material by cable or subscription television 1469 Presumptions In Armijo v. U.S., 384 F2d 694, The court ruled that portions of letters describing in detail "degenerate bestiality" were not merely obscene but represented hard-core pornography. The federal code most damaging to zoophiliac freedom is 18 USCS @ 1461, which prohibits obscene books as unmailable. In the case U.S. v. Miller 455 F.2d 899, this statute was applied by court to find that books describing bestiality between women and a dog were "unmailable." Now remember the Roth Test...So now you know that you can't mail, import, transport, broadcast, transport, sell, transfer, or distribute via cable or subscription televison, obscene material. Criminal forfeiture? Guess what, Code 1467 says that the courts can take any property that involved the obscenity law being broken. This could be VCR's, your car, your computer, etc. You forfeited them when you used them to break the law. Presumptions? Code 1469 means that is there is any hint that the material was made somewhere else be it direct evidence or even circumstantial evidence, then the courts will immediately assume it was transported and therfore violated Code 1462 as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part Four; Zoophilia and The Law; History] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ,--, _ ___/ /\| [ This section written and compiled by ,;`( )__, ) ~ L'Etalon Doux (an63019@anon.penet.fi) // // \ '--; (The Gentle Stallion) ] ' \ | ^ ^ ============================<A - INTRODUCTION>=============================== The church, which until the time of Henry VIII still had jurisdiction over all sexual crimes, issued "Penitential Books" which described in the minutest detail all forbidden sexual acts and the punishment which was attached to them. Some of these books survive in The British Library. They are written in Latin and, according to Rattery Taylor, author of "Sex in History," are so explicit that they would immediately fall foul of the English obscenity laws if published. The five penitential codes contain some 22 paragraphs defining every conceivable form of Sodomy. Before we go on to looking at some specific cases, we should look at why the church was so keen to seek out practitioners of un- natural acts, the infamous "crime against nature." The church, even at this time, was still directly involved in what it saw as the fight against superstition and Paganism. Much use was still made of spells and curses, potions containing the penises and testicles of bulls and horses were widely believed to have magical, rather than medical, powers to improve a man's potency, or to win over a shy virgin. Many of these beliefs were handed down from pre-Christian religions in which the sexual union of human and beast were part of their animistic rites. There were certainly very active horse cults both in Ireland and the Nordic Lands which persisted well into the fifth century. Within living memory, a hangover from these times was still practised in Iceland. The stallion fight, although no one would suggest it has retained it's original meaning, was still to be seen at the turn of the century. It consisted of two stallions fighting over an in-season mare in the middle of a large arena. The winner then favoured the mare with as many coverings as he could manage before the next pair came in to the arena for the entertainment of the crowd. It is easy to see that this display of masculine strength and sexual potency was originally a way of selecting the best beast to be offered in sacrifice to the gods. The interested reader may wish to know that such stallion fights are still practised publicly in the Phillipines. ==============================<B - CASE STUDIES>============================= We will now go on to a few of the reported cases. We must remember here that Europe was completely dependent on agriculture and opportunities were avilable to all and taken by many more than were ever caught. In winter, the animals lived in the lower part of the house and the people in the upper part in order that the animals could provide a rudimentary form of heating and be safe from hungry wolves. It is easy to imagine a lonely farmer choosing to warm himelf by seeking "body warmth" from his horse. In many non-European cultures, sexual acts between humans and animals were never taboo. They were, for instance, not punished or even considered socialy unacceptable among Hopi Indians and Kupfer Eskimos in America or among the Kusaia and Masai Tribes in Africa. Indeed, it has been reported that Masai adolescents frequently used donkeys as a sexual outlet. In Peru, Dr. Francisco Guerra found that no less than six percent of the jugs used by the native indians contained bestiality motives, as opposed to the three percent which depicted homosexuality. The rest were concerned with hetrosexual sex acts, oral, anal, etc.. In 1468, one Monsieur Jean Beisse was convicted of copulating with a cow and a goat. Jean, the cow and the goat were all burned at the stake. In 1601, 16 year old Caudine de Culam was convicted of intercourse with a dog. Both were hanged and their bodies burned. November 1607, a young boy convicted and hanged for copulating with a mare. The mare was killed at the foot of the gallows with a poleaxe. In 1649, M. Vijon burned for having sex with a bird. In Pilgrim Father's Plymouth Colony a divorce law enacted in 1639 mentions bestiality specifically as a ground for divorce. Cotton Mather in his book "The history of New England," written at the end of the seventeenth century, describes how a Weymouth man, who had been a lifelong Sodomist, was first made to watch as 3 sheep, 2 sows, 2 heifers and a cow, all of which had been his sexual partners, were hanged. It seems that in this puritanical world that the animals involved were just as guilty "before God" as the man himself. He was executed in the same manner shortly afterwards. Another case from New England in the mid-seventeenth century concerns one Thomas Granger, an imbecile from Duxbury. He had copulated with a mare, a cow, 2 goats, five sheep, 2 calves and a turkey. He ended up on the gallows of course. For a first class demonstration of how effective torture can be we turn to a man who admited, under torture, to sodomising a sow, knowing full well that he would hang for it. The evidence was that a piglet had a human appearence, and "a flecked eye exactly like his...because of this he was suspected and admitted his guilt." It is, of course, an absolute impossibilty for a man to father a pig. We must then assume that the poor man decided that hanging was better than to allow the torture to continue. A transcript survives of a case in Virginia at about the same time. It appears that one Nathaniel Moore had tied a calf to a tree and performed anal sex with it. It is not recorded whether the beast was a bull or heifer. Robert Wyard, a prosecution witness, gave the following statement: Saw him buggering the said calf four or five times. In his action Nathaniel had the calf by the tail his yard thrusting into the calf several times, wiping his fingers on the calf's side and wiping it's breech with his hand. He called his wife over. Do you see what yonder fellow is doing? Who is it? It is your servant Nathaniel. What a villain he is. The two approached very close to the scene and were eventually spotted by our "villain." He had carried on without noticing until they were close enough to see everything clearly. At that time, he had not yet extricated his penis from the animal's rectum. Villain. What are you doing here? Nothing. Resting the calf. What should I do? You villain, you lie, your buggering the calf and we stood looking at you. Villain, you have done enough to be hanged. Nathaniel was found guilty of sodomy. The witness does seem to behaved rather oddly though. Not only does he not call out to this "Villain," but he goes in closer and watches quietly until discovered. Could it be that he wanted to watch? At this time many cases of bestiality came to light. Women were a scarce commodity to the first settlers in the new world. The rape of a woman would mean a living witness and certain execution. The rape of an animal that can not speak was, on the other hand, a relatively safe way of releasing sexual tensions, assuming that there were no observers around! In 1683, Denmark passed a law making both homosexuality and bestiality punishable by burning. In 1711, it was decided that those convicted should be garroted as well as burned. In England in 1821, the law read: "Any person, who commits the crime of sodomy, either with a man, or with any animal, and is found guilty, will be put to death." The sentence was always death of course, but as the presence of semen in the animal had to be proven to get a conviction until this date, many of those charged had to be released. In order to raise the conviction/hanging rate, the evidence required was changed so that it was no longer necessary "to prove ejaculation, rather intercourse shall be deemed to have occured if penetration has occured." If no penetration had occured but a witness observed someone "attempting" to copulate with an animal, the sentence was 10 years. The law was revised in 1861 and the sentence reduced to life imprisonment. This law remains to this day! In August, 1888, a Mr. Vizetelly was prosecuted for publishing obscene literature. He pleaded not guilty. The book in question was a translation of Emile Zola's "La Terre"--"The Land"--now accepted as a literary masterpiece the world over. During the trial the jury were so visibly shocked by one of the quotations which was read out in court that Vitzetelly was advised to change his plea to Guilty. The passage in question is so beautifully written that I quote it in full: "Carefully, as though undertaking something of great importance, she stepped quickly forward with pursed lips and set face; concentration made her eyes seem even darker. She had to reach right across with her arm as she grasped the bull's penis firmly in her hand and lifted it up. And when the bull felt that he was near the edge, he gathered his strength and, with one single thrust of his loins, pushed his penis right in. Then it came out again." The defendant was fined 250. 3 months later, he was again on trial for selling Zola translations and served 3 months in prison. "One E, aged 35, a labourer, who was sentenced by the 8th Tribuneral Correctionel of the Seine to three months imprisonment for an outrage on public decency." He was accused of having committed acts of bestiality on fowls. These acts had occurred at a lodging-house keeper's in the Rue des Gravalliers. This man had found one of his fowls dead. He observed E, one of his lodgers, and surprised him at the moment the act was being consummated. The fowl was injured and E had feathers and traces of blood upon his dress." (Tardieu Attentats aux Moers.) Men and Dogs - curious Observations It is not unusual to see our judges sentencing prisoners who have been caught in the very act of bestiality in public places. Thus, a Chambre Correctionelle of Paris, on Jan 5th 1880, condemned to four months' imprisonment and a fine of 16 francs, and old man of 74, who was arrested on the 2nd of the month in a urinal, in Rue Publa, at the moment when, having introduced his penis into the jaws of a large Newfoundland dog, he was proceeding to manualize the animal. And another sentence of six months imprisonment and 16 francs was pronounced on one D, born in Paris, married and the father of three children, who was surprised in a urinal on the Boulvard Voltaire, on his knees with a dog between his thighs. The officer who stated the facts, pointed out in his report that, guided by the plaintive cries of an animal, he was induced to enter the urinal, and there arrested the accused whose dress was covered with water. (Pouillet.) Pouillet's two observations do not acquaint us with the mental condition of the two men caught "in flagrante delicto." In these two cases, the animals played a passive part. It is not the same in the following observation, due to Tardieu, in which the animal, on the contrary plays the active part. It deserves to be quoted in extenso on account of the anatomo-physiological discussion to which it has given rise. "The third case of bestiality, which gave rise to a quite recent prosecution, was the occasion of a medico-legal report, very new in its object, on the part of a veterinary surgeon, whose latest opinion I reproduce; but I ought previously to give an account of the circumstances in which the act occurred, and those which resulted from the proces-verbal, which follows, and which I quote in extenso. On April 28th, in the year 1892, we, a commissary of police, from information which we received regarding an outrage against public decency, committed by one N, a surveyor of roads, and learning that every information regarding this loathsome act could be supplied by one L, a labourer, caused the said L, to appear before us and he there stated as follows: "On the 17 inst., about 10 o'clock in the morning, I was working between the Lacroix and Robert Joly roads. L was employed in cutting withies in the wood not far from me: at this time I wanted to smoke a pipe, and left my work to go and ask L for a match; After going about 50 metres, I heard a rustling in the wood to my left, and I stopped short; the noise still continuing, I turned aside from my original direction and took a few steps forward. All at once I noticed a dog which I recognized as belonging to M. I advanced a few paces further with much precaution, and I observed the said N, surveyor of roads, with his trousers down and his sexual parts exposed, his body bent with his face towards the ground, his head being turned almost in my direction. There I saw N and the dog leaning one against the other; N in the above position with his right hand behind his back, caressing the dog and pulling about its genital parts with his fingers; I remained thus as a spectator for several minutes; when the act was consumated, I saw the dog's member coming out of N's fundament. N then raised his head, and seeing me wanted to set the dog upon me to bite me, several times crying out "Bite him!" I observed to N that the dog was no worse than he, and that I was not afraid of it. I went away directly, and a few paces from the spot, I met A, and I told him that if I had known that he was so near to me, I should have called to him to let him see the act of which I had just been a witness, and which I hastened to relate to him." L, aged 16, a labourer, was also heard as a witness in the above affair, and declared as follows:" on April 17th, I was cutting withies in the forest of Rambouillet. About half past nine I saw the said N, surveyor of roads, accompanied by M's dog; I remarked to N that it was fortunate that my father was not there at that moment, or he would not go into the forest with the dog, seeing that it was expressly forbidden; upon this he laughed at me, and disappeared with the dog into the midst of the wood. About a quarter past ten, I heard a dog barking. I left my work to see if the dog were hunting. When I reached the Alle des Chantillons, I saw the said A. When I got near him, he said to me, If I had known that you were so near to me, I should have come to look for you, to let you know something awful, which I have just witnessed." Here the witness L made word for word the statement as it is written above, related to him by L immediately after the act had been consummated, and adds that since that day the dog cannot leave N. N, aged 43, surveyor of roads, was questioned on the facts which are alleged against him, and he replied as follows: "On the 17th inst.,about 10 o'clock in the morning, as I was going to my work at a stone quarry situated in the forest, I was accompanied by a large dog belonging to M, a farmer. When I reached the wood, and was in rather a dense spot, and believing myself to be sheltered there from everybody's gaze, I unbuttoned and took down my trousers; I then bent downwards with my face almost against the ground, and presented my posterior to the dog to lick me, which he did. This was done with the intention of allaying the pain caused me by my thighs rubbing together as I walked. It is no good my laying any further stress upon other points; it is true I was seen in the wood, and in the position which I have just indicated to you by the said L, but what he asserts is only a falsehood." N was indicted and tried for an outrage on public decency, and was sentenced to a year's imprisonment. The Court of Appeal of Paris, being of the opinion that it had not been established that copulation between the man and the dog took place, but that N had indulged in obscene manoeuvres in public, reduced his sentence to three month imprisonment. In the course of the pleadings, the following piece of evidence was produced. It deserves to be quoted. Medico-legal consultation by M. Janet, veterinary surgeon at Rambouillet, May 14th 1872. Question : Can a dog perform anal copulation upon a man ? No I think not, for the following reasons : 1st, because the penis of the dog has a very special conformation which is only suitable for generation with his own species. 2nd, because its penis, which is very pointed and slender, has an interior bone covered with very sensitive erectile tissue, which, during accoupling, swells considerably, forms a plug inside the vagina, and prevents the dog from withdrawing immediately afterwards, the ejection of the spermatic secretion being very slow, which explains why one often sees dogs and bitches unable to separate, and remaining joined together as long as the erectile tissue has not shrunk nor become soft and flaccid again. In this painful situation, these poor beasts are very frequently the victims of odious brutalities. When bitches are on heat, that is to say in a state of extreme excitement through venereal desires, the vaginal opening becomes dilated very easily, and the mucous membranes acquire a great elasticity; it is then that the dog is able to introduce his penis into it, which is very difficult for him when the bitch has returned to her normal state. How then could the dog, which cannot cover the bitch when she is quiet, on account of contraction and resistance of the vaginal tissues, succeed in introducing his penis into a man's rectum? This appears to me impossible, for the reasons which I have just given, and also for the following physiological reasons, which I will endeavour to make clear. 1st On seeing a man's posterior, I do not think that it is the nature of the dog to feel such venereal desires as on seeing a bitch. 2nd The anatomical constitution of his penis, which is very flexible at its point, does not give enough stiffness for him to introduce it into a man's anus and to overcome the very great resistance of the sphincter, the circular muscle of the anus, the contractility of which is excessively powerful. 3rd The man's buttocks also display a surface large enough to put the dog further away, and to prevent the introduction of the penis, the length of which is diminished in proportion as the internal bone which forms a protuberance, is brought near to the point. In this case only a rubbing of the penis on the skin is possible. 4th The man being on his knees with his hands resting on the ground, facilitating by his position the pederasty of the dog, will never attain his object if the animal, not being very tall, cannot encircle his body with his two forepaws so as to have a solid point of support. I have acquired the certitude of what I have stated by placing the dog upon a man who was willing to lend himself to the experiment. Placed, kept there, and held up as he was by me, the dog (the same one that appeared int he case) if he had been accustomed to the action, would have been eager to try to satisfy his genesic desires, on the contrary, he showed indifference, did not understand what was asked of him, and tried to get away; he has given us evident proof of unwillingness and innocence. If, contrary to all physiological estimation, the dog had succeeded in overcoming all the obstacles and in completely introducing his penis into the man's rectum, the effect of the erectile tissue of the bone would immediately have been produced, and caused the enormous natural swelling (as in the bitches vagina during the process of covering) which would have compelled the two creatures to remain stuck together during the entire period of the energetic contraction of the sphincter. You see here then this most curious picture: the man compelled to remain in the quadruped position, and he on his part, and the dog on his, obliged to pull in order to free themselves from the bond which attaches them; the man unable to get up or stand upright without lifting the dog from the ground, causing himself extreme pain and exposing himself to be dangerously bitten. In this case the monstrosity would be undeniable. I conclude therefor that the fact of pederasty of the dog with the man is impossible, owing to the anatomical conformation of the one and the penis of the other. I have made numerous researches in many works, but have not found a single similar case of bestiality. I should not venture, I confess, to make such a formal pronouncement in the negative. And without wishing to enter here into unnecessary detail, I shall confine myself to recalling the fact that too numerous instances of bestiality have ben positively verified in the case of women of evil life for us to exonerate the canine species of acts similar to that which has just been related (Tardieu) Dr. Jacobus X.. Abuses Aberrations and Crimes of the Genital Sense (1901) In a suggested change to the law in Switzerland, in 1909, the "crime" of bestiality was deliberately left out. In 1944, an American soldier was convicted by general court- marshall of sodomy with a cow and sentenced to a dishonourable discharge and 3 years hard labour. The cow was spared, but in England into the 1950's, animals were still sometimes ordered to be destroyed in such cases. In 1962, Illinois became the first American state to revise it's criminal code along the lines suggested in The Model Penal Code (devised by American Law Institute). Specifically, oral genital contacts, and anal intercourse between consenting adults in private and sexual acts with animals are no longer criminal offenses. Connecticut, New York and Kansas have also made some revisions in this area. California Penal Code paragraph 286: Sodomy-Punishment : Every person who is guilty of the infamous crime against nature, committed with mankind or with any animal, is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison of not less than one year. In the Former Eastern (Communist) half of Germany, Bestiality was not an offense. Bestiality ceased to be a crime in West Germany when the law was removed from the "Straf Gesetz Buch" in 1969 due to lack of use. Sodomistic intercourse with animals has also been removed from the list of criminal sexual offenses in France, Belgium, Italy, Portugal, Holland and Russia. Such cases are now dealt with under indecency and animal cruelty regulations and are most unlikely to receive a prison sentence. In those countries such as Great Britain, which have not updated their laws, the penalty is, normally, still life imprisonment, i.e.; the modern equivalent of a death sentence. In England, a legal precedent has been set which frees any woman of a sodomy charge if she was acting under coercion. _____________________________________________________________________________ The Times, December 13th, 1991 "NO EXCUSE FOR DOLPHIN SEX ACT" An Animal rights campaigner accused of outraging public decency by committing an obscene act with a dolphin might have done so to persuade the animal to prefer him to other swimmers, a court was told yesterday. David Wood for the prosecution, told Newcastle upon Tyne crown court, that Alan Cooper, aged 38, might have performed the act on Freddie, a 12ft. bottle-nose dolphin, because there was a great deal of competition to swim with the dolphin. When Mr. Cooper saw a boatload of people approaching, Including Peter Bloom, curator of a dolphinarium, who he particularly disliked, "it may have been tempting to do something which he knew the dolphin would like," Mr. Wood Said. However, the reason for Mr. Cooper's action was irrelevant and he had outraged the boat passengers by going way beyond decent behaviour. Mr. Cooper, of Gorton, Manchester, denies outraging public decency by masturbating the dolphin off Amble, Northumberland. Tony Jennings, for Mr. Cooper, said that Mr. Bloom, who prompted the complaints, was a sworn enemy of his client. He said Mr. Bloom had the audacity to condemn Mr. Cooper for the alleged sexual act, yet he had trained dolphins to jump out of the water and remove a bikini top from a woman swimmer for a film sequence. The trial continues today. _____________________________________________________________________________ Comment: The above case is chiefly of interest because of the charge; "Outraging Public Decency." It should be noted that no cruelty charge could be brought as even the prosecution admits that he was doing "something which he knew the dolphin would like." Indeed, had there been no "public" present to be "outraged" at the event, the charge could not have been brought at all. That being said, the English legal system is notorious for bringing charges even for sexual acts committed in private. A Conservative MP Harvey Proctor was convicted of "Gross Indecency" for beating male prostitutes with a cane. The beatings were agreed and paid for and took place in private. The case only came to light when one of the prostitutes decided to make even more money by selling the story to one of the more salacious Sunday Tabloids. In a more recent case, the Appeal Court upheld a prison sentence handed down to sado-masochists for assault even though it took place in a private house among consenting adults. Although the dolphin case is clearly concerned with a human- animal sex act, no charge of Sodomy can be brought under English law for the masturbation of an animal. This simple fact releases Mr. Cooper from the risk of a long prison sentence because, for the more serious charge of attempted Sodomy--that is a clear intention to achieve rectal or vaginal penetration with any animal--carries a ten year maximum sentence. Sodomy, if penetration can be proved "beyond a reasonable doubt," carries a maximum of life imprisonment. Note that ejaculation need not occur. It should be noted here that dolphins are notoriously randy and there are many reports from trainers and divers of male dolphins masturbating themselves on rubber dinghies or diving suits. They are also one of the select group of mammals, other than man, which engage in sexual intercourse among themselves purely for pleasure. _________________________________________________________________ The Sunday Sport, December 15th, 1991 "MUFFIN THE MULE" A sex starved wife was granted a divorce because her hubby preferred love with his mule. Huriye Karacak, 42, suspected that husband Husamettin, 55, was being unfaithful because he stayed out night after night. But then she found him having sex with the family's mule at their farm in Sivas, Turkey. Judge Selemi Ayyildiz tried to reconcile the couple but finaly agreed a divorce when Hussamettin refused to sell the animal and said "it's beautiful and does not nag." _________________________________________________________________ Comment: We must assume from this report that no specific charge was brought with regard to the regular sexual intercourse between Hussamettin and the mule. Turkey, although an Islamic country, does not adhere to "Islamic Law" as practised in many other countries in the region. Under Islamic law, the penalty for Sodomy with an animal is death. This does raise a few interesting questions. If we take the case a few hundred kilometres south, we find that the wife would have no right to request a divorce from her husband. It also raises the probability that she would never reveal her husband's particular sexual leanings because, firstly, it would mean admitting that her husband, given the choice between having sex with her and a mule, had chosen the latter. She would also lose her bread winner in a country where paid work for women is frowned upon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======== Newsgroups: alt.sex.bestiality Subject: FAQ (4/8) [Zoophilia and Your Health] From: kayotae@eden.rutgers.edu (Kayotae Erik Blackwolf) Date: 17 Jun 1995 01:27:31 -0400 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part Four; Zoophilia and Your Health] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- =============================<A - INTRODUCTION>============================== Herpes, gonorrhea, genital warts, and syphiliis, four of the most common sexually transmitted diseases in the world, are all diseases which are limited to contraction and transmission by humans. However, it has been theorized that if a man with a venereal disease were to have sex with an animal, without the use of a condom, and then another man were to have sex with that same animal immediately or soon after, that if semen or blood from the first man were absorbed into the blood stream of the second man, he may contract a venereal disease. ===================<B - CONTAGIOUS ANIMAL HEALTH DISEASES>=================== 1 - Auto-Immune Deficiency Syndrome, (AIDS) - --------------------------------------- Presently, it is not known for sure if Auto-Immune Deficiency Syndrome can be passed between a human and a non-human animal through sexual intercourse. According to the American Veterinary Medical Association, Feline Infectious Virus, the alleged pre-cursor to Feline AIDS and equivalent to Human Infectious Virus, (HIV), is not transmittable between felines and non-feline animals. 2 - Lyme Disease - ------------ [ This section written by MegaDog (megadog@dogstar.win-uk.net) ] Lyme is a disease of humans, dogs, cows, cats, horses, deer and goats, caused by a Spirochete bacterium, Borrelia bergdorferi. It was first recognised in the mid-1970's and has been recorded in the USA, Europe, Central/South America, Japan, the CIS [ex-USSR] and Africa. Normally, the disease is spread by bites from ticks [Deer tick, Black-legged tick and Lone-star tick], though fleas have also been implicated, as have Dog-ticks. Hunters who handle or come into contact with the blood or hides of infected deer can become infected; the Borrelia spirochete has been identified in semen and urine of animals, and there are indications that it may also be present in saliva. Infection of the fetus via the placenta has been recorded in both humans and animals. **Sexual transmission of the disease between humans, or between humans **and animals, has not *as yet* been conclusively proved, or disproved! However Borrelia is a Spirochete bacterium, as is Treponema pallidum, the causative organism of syphilis. **You are left to draw your own conclusions as to the *possibility* that **Lyme may be transmitted sexually. Symptoms: Humans ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ These vary. In the case of infection by tick bites, around half the cases show a rash [called erythema migrans] at the point of bite; this can be confused with other allergies, rashes, chemical or biological burns etc, or may go unnoticed if it is on one of the less visible parts of the body. When the infection is contracted in other ways, the characteristic bite-site signs may be absent. Other symptoms resemble flu, and may include:- headache, sore throat, fever, muscle ache or tenderness, tiredness, insomnia and joint soreness. Left untreated, these symptoms generally disappear; chronic Borrelosis may take months or years to develop, and may result in meningitis, muscle pain, arthritis, numbness, tingling and burning sensations in the limbs, testicular discomfort, facial paralysis [Bell's Palsy], fatigue, lassitude and depression. The heart, eye, reproductive, respiratory system and gastrointestinal tract may become involved. In this form, the disease may persist for many years, with periods of remission. Symptoms: Animals ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The rash is rarely seen, being concealed by fur. Symptoms include fever, arthritis, lameness, soreness, listlessness, loss of appetite [with consequent weight loss and loss of condition], and swollen joints. The involvement of major organs or systems is the same as for humans. The disease may impair reproduction, resulting in sterility, abortion or stillbirth. In some cases the pain experienced may result in irritability or behavioural changes, such as a reduction in tractability of horses. Again, as for humans, the symptoms may be persistent, or show periods of remission of varying lengths. Diagnosis ~~~~~~~~~ The diagnosis of Lyme borrelosis is problematic; as of July 1994, there is no definitively accurate test for the disease; Repeated tests of blood from the same individual may show alternating positive and negative Lyme status. Diagnosis is largely based on the clinical symptoms, the patient's history, and by eliminating other possible causes of the symptoms. Treatment ~~~~~~~~~ Antibiotics such as amoxycillin generally provide successful treatment in humans; success depends on how soon after infection the treatment begins. Once the later stages of the disease are seen, persistent repeated courses of medication may be necessary, with no guarantee of success; once treatment is apparently complete, relapses may occur. **CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN/VETERINARIAN FOR ADVICE IF YOU SUSPECT YOU OR YOUR **ANIMALS MAY HAVE CONTRACTED LYME. DO NOT ATTEMPT SELF-MEDICATION! At present, there have been no reports of the evolution of antibiotic- resistant strains of Lyme. Risk Reduction ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Try to avoid yourself, or your animals, getting bitten by ticks. If you have visited areas where ticks are present, you should check yourself and your animals. This may take some time, but the longer an infected tick remains attached, the greater the chance of Lyme infection being passed. Check daily for ticks; favorite sites are round the eyes and ears, between the toes, on the back of the neck, and in the groin/armpit regions. Ticks may wander around the body for some time [hours, days] before settling on a bite site, they may also remain hidden on clothing, in animal bedding etc. If you find ticks, the best way to remove them is using a pair of tick forceps; these can be bought for a few $ at most pet/animal stores, and are designed to pull the whole tick out, including the mouthparts. Trying to pull a tick out using your fingers is *not* recommended; you will squeeze the body of the tick, which can inject infected blood from the tick back into the bloodstream. Other ways of removing ticks, involving alcohol, cigarettes, salt water etc. are not recommended. Record the location of bite sites, and examine them periodically for some days, in order to spot any signs of the characteristic Lyme-disease rash. Keep the ticks for identification. If Lyme symptoms develop, it may be necessary to identify the species of tick involved. Either place them in a small container with some alcohol, or trap them between two layers of clear adhesive tape. Understand, and be able to recognise, the symptoms of first-stage infection both in humans and animals. If your animals show symptoms, as well as consulting a veterinarian, you should consult a physician. The reverse also applies; if you show symptoms, inform your vet and get your animals checked. Avoid, as far as possible, contact with or exchange of body fluids [urine, blood, semen, saliva] between animals or humans that are, or may be, infected. This is particularly important if you have any cuts, grazes or other injuries to parts of your body that may come into contact with the other person/animal's body fluids. Adopt "safer sex" practises; Remember there may also be invisible internal damage to mucous membranes of the mouth, anus, vagina or penis/urethra, all of which can provide possible paths for infection by a wide range of sexually transmissible diseases. More Information ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you have access to an Internet 'Gopher' you can access further information by searching on 'lyme', 'borrelosis' or 'borrelia'. Additional information can be obtained from state health departments, veterinarians, physicians, or the Lyme Disease Foundation, Inc. [P.O. Box 462, Tolland, Connecticut 06084]. There is also an electronic mail digest called 'The LymeNet Newsletter', where current research is discussed. To receive this automatically, you should send e-mail as follows:- To: listserv@lehigh.edu Subject: (leave this blank......) The first [and only] line of your e-mail should contain the text:- subscribe lymenet-l <your full name> {Do not send a signature file on your message; the listserver may barf!} Summary ~~~~~~~ There is little if any authoritative information on whether Lyme can be transmitted by sex. Conflicting opinions abound, definitive answers are few! Understand the nature of the disease, and the possibilities for transmission, then make an informed decision for yourself, and take risk-reducing steps where you think necessary. 3 - Toxoplasma - ---------- [ This section compiled by Equuinox, (equuinox@worf.netins.net) ] From _Foundations of Parasitology_ (Schmidt/Roberts 1989) Toxoplasma is an intracellular parasite of many kinds of tissues, including muscle and intestinal epithelium...Oocysts appear in the cats feces from 3 to 5 days after infection by cysts. The most common symptoms of acute toxoplasmosis is painful, swollen lymph glands in the cervical, supraclavicular, and inguinal regions. This symptom may be associated with fever, headache, muscle pain, anemia, and sometimes lung complications. This syndrome can be mistaken easily for the flu. Acute infection can, although rarely does, cause death...In the immunocompetent person T. gondii ordinarily is kept at bay by cell-mediated immunity...Presently T. gondii is a serious opportunistic infection in AIDS. The most tragic form of this disease is congenital toxoplasmosis. If a mother contracts acute toxoplasmosis at the time of her child's conception or during pregnancy, the organisms will often infect her developing fetus. Fortunately, most neonatal infections are asymptomatic, but a significant number cause death or disability to newborns...The transmission rate to the fetus from a maternal infection is about 45%. Of those infected, about 60% will be subclinical, 9% may die, and 30% may suffer severe damage such as hydrocephalus, intracerebral calcification, retinochoroiditis, and mental retardation. Feral and domestic cats will continue to be a source of infections in humans...Any cat, no matter how well fed and protected, may be passing oocysts of Toxoplasma, although for only a few days after infection. The possibilities are particularly alarming if someone in the house becomes pregnant. Certainly, a woman who knows she is pregnant should never empty the litterbox or clean up after the cat's occasional indiscretion. Also, because children's sandboxes become a haven for neighborhood cats, they should have tightly-fitting covers. This will also protect children from larva migrans from hookworm and ascaridoid juveniles...Pyrimethamine and sulfonamides given together are widely used drugs against Toxoplasma. 4 - Urinary Tract Infections, (UTIs) - -------------------------------- Urinary Tract Infections are caused by gram negative bacteria which may be found in the vagina of female animals. GN Bacteria are known to cause yeast infections, metritis, and pyometria in female animals and can lead to cystitis, urethritis, or pyelonephritis in human males. Symptoms of a UTI include frequent urination, pain when urinating, and blood and/or pus in ones' urine. UTIs may be contracted when having sex with a female animal in or out of season though they are more likely to cause a UTI when in season because of the hospitability of the female reproductive system to bacteria during this time. UTIs are easily cured with antibiotics. 5 - Canine Brucellosis - ------------------ Canine Brucellosis, caused by the bacteria brucella canis, can be trans- mitted to male humans by female carriers during sex. Female canines with CB show a loss of vigor, enlargement of the lymph nodes and, occasionally, the spleen. Commonly, CB will only cause a human male to experience fever symptoms though one case has been documented where CB has caused sterility. Signs of severe infection in human males may include a UTI, scrotal dermatitis, or diminution of the testicles; testicular atrophy. Those showing severe symptoms should consult a physician immediately. 6 - Parasites - --------- Parasites such as tapeworms, hookworms, ringworms, and coccidia may be contracted through sexual contact with an animal. The most common way of contracting parasites from an animal is from oral/anal and genital/anal contact. Animals with parasites may suffer from nausea, listlessness, and increased appetite or thirst. A simple test of the animals' stool done at your local veterinarians will show whether or not the animal has worms. Treatment for both humans and animals is often simple and only involves the taking of medication. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======== Newsgroups: alt.sex.bestiality Subject: FAQ (5/8) [Zoophilia in Music, Art and Literature] From: kayotae@eden.rutgers.edu (Kayotae Erik Blackwolf) Date: 17 Jun 1995 01:47:48 -0400 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part Five; Zoophilia in Music, Art, and Literature] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Contributors to this section include The Miami's (an????@anon.penet.fi), Hossie, (hossie@irs.com), Satyrs@netcom.com, Saranthyrr Thristovar'ren, (an19653@anon.penet.fi), Snufferbux (el792@cleveland.Freenet.Edu), Dr. Doolittle (an53976@anon.penet.fi), Staysa (staysa@qnet.com), MegaDog, (megadog@dogstar.win-uk.net) and Redvane (redvane@demon.atheling.co.uk) ] Welcome to the cultured section of our FAQ! This section details zoophilia in music, art and literature throughout history. Please excuse the mess as this section is still under construction. If you have a contribution for this section, or you would like to do research on a topic covered in this section, please contact Kayotae Blackwolf (kayotae@mindvox.phantom.com). =================================<A - MUSIC>================================= 1 - Vintage Vinyl - ------------- a.) Beatles, "Dig A Pony" ["Let It Be," EMI Records] I-I-I dig a pony, Well you can celebrate anything you want. Yes, you can celebrate anything you want." b.) Disturbingly Lonesome Cowboys, "Ol' Blue" ["Diesel Dykes Of Dixie," Ghostdancer Records] "I came into the house, just as still as a mouse, filled with a burnin' dread. What was eatin' on me, was your cheatin' on me, there was red hair in my bed. I kinda figgur'd he'd be stonger and bigger, I had some prints to this warty ol' frog. But the least I'd 'a thought, when you were caught, you'd be humpin' my huntin' dog. Honey why'd ya fuck Ol' Blue? What'd he ever do to you? He was a good ol' pup 'til you fucked 'im up. Why'd ya fuck Ol' Blue? Honey, why'd ya fuck ol' Blue?" c.) The Dayglo Abortions, "Two Dogs Fucking" ["Two Dogs Fucking / Deux Chien Fourrent," Fringe Product, Inc.] "The mayor of Nipean went for a walk in the park to admire the beauty of his man-made nature. He came upon a site that made his blood run cold So he called upon the Mighty Lord to help him with his foe, it was Two dogs fucking, stuck ass to ass, entwined in bestial romance! It was obscene so he called the police. They sent an officer named Jim Fitzgibbons. They came up with a plan that involved a bucket of cold water to be thrown on the fornicating demons, but they had to face Two dogs fucking, stuck ass to ass, entwined in bestial romance!" d.) Wynonie Harris, "Keep On Churnin'" ["Bloodshot Eyes, The Best of Wynonie Harris," Rhino Records] ["Risque Rhythm; Nasty 50's R&B," Rhino Records] "Keep on churnin' 'til the butter comes. Keep on churnin' 'til the butter comes. Keep on pumpin make the butter flow, Wipe off the paddle and churn some more. Little Boy Blue come blow your horn, Cows in the meadow, the sheep's in the corn. Take the sheep, leave them be, Bring the finest brown cow to me. CHORUS How now, brown cow, keep on eatin your hay, Go in your shed, be sure you're fed. Go in your shed, be sure you're fed, Daddy needs butter for his shortnin bread. CHORUS Ooo now, milk cow, keep on swishin your tail, Don't kick over the pail. First comes the milk, then comes the cream, Takes good butter to make your daddy scream. CHORUS I wanted some butter one day, Fine brown cow came my way. We kept on pumpin", Butter came jumpin. I'll milk you, cow, 'til my pail is full, Look out, heifer, here comes your bull!" e.) Lee Dorsey, "Ride Your Pony" ["A History of New Orleans Rhythm and Blues," Rhino Records] "Ride your Pony, Get on your pony and ride. Ride your Pony, Get on your pony and ride! Oh you're ridin' high. Get ready now shoot, shoot, shoot." f.) The Galaxies and The Regulars, "Ride Your Horse" ["Land Of A Thousand Dunces," Candy Records] <Whinney> "Ride your horse! Who's gonna ride horse? <women's voices> We're gonna ride horse! <men's voices> We want a tame horse! <women's voices> We want a wild horse! <men's voices> Ride your horse a little while, <women's you can do it cowboy style. voices> Everybody's gonna ride horse!" <all together> g.) Kinky Friedman and The Texas Jewboys, "Asshole From El Paso" ["Old Testaments and New Revelations," Fruit of the Tune] "We don't wipe our asses on ol' glory. God and Lone Star Beer are things we trust! We keep our women virgins 'til they're married. So ho's and sheep is good enough for us. And I'm proud to be an Asshole from El Paso, place where sweet young virgins are deflowered. You walk down the street knee-deep in tacos, and the wetbacks still get twenty cents an hour." h.) Johnny Bucket, "Let Me Play Wit' Yo' Poodle" ["Sin Alley, Part One," Crypt CD] "Now your little poodle look kinda cute an' neat, I wonder what it'd do wit' some home fried meat. I wanna play wit' yo' poodle. Please let me play wit' yo' poodle. I wanna play wit' yo' poodle, I mean your little poodle dog." i.) P.D.Q. Bach, "Missa Hilarious" by P.D.Q.Bach on ["Portrait of P.D.Q.Bach," Vanguard Records] "Angus Dei! Angus Dei! She looks so nice just standing there, All covered with the dew. Angus Dei! Angus Dei! She's the prettiest cow I've ever seen, And I have seen a few!" j.) Pearl Jam, "Animal" [Album name and label unknown] "I'd rather be with an animal." k.) Def Leppard, "Animal" [Album name and label unknown] "And I want, and I need, and I love, Animal." l.) Front 242, "Zoo Animal" [Album name and label unknown] "When I look in the mirror, all that I see is a zoo animal that wants to be free, just get away, get away from me, 'cause I'll never be who you want me to be." l.) Paul McCartney, "Jet" (Written for a female dog) [Album name and label unknown] "Our maker, I want Jet to always love me. Our maker, you know I want little Jet to always love me. Our maker, I wouldn't trade her... Sufferin' Jet!" m.) Nine Inch Nails, "Closer" [Album name and label unknown] "I wanna fuck you like an animal, I wanna feel you from the inside" n.) The Mothers of Invention, "Dirty Love" [Album name and label unknown] (Lyrics unavailable) o.) The Byrds, "Chestnut Mare" [Album name and label unknown] "Gonna catch that horse if I can. Then I'm gonna give her my brand... ...she'll be just like a wife" p.) Phish, "Llama" [Album name and label unknown] (Lyrics unavailable) q.) Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Naked In The Rain" [Album name and label unknown] (Lyrics unavailable) r.) W.A.S.P., "Fuck like a Beast" [Album name and label unknown] (Lyrics unavailable) s.) Enigma, "Mea Culpa" (remix) [Album name and label unknown] (Lyrics unavailable] t.) Inspiral Carpets, "I Can't Feel You Moo" [Album name and label unknown] (Lyrics unavailable] u.) Prince, "Alphabet Street" from Lovesexy, by Prince ["Lovesexy," label unknown] "You kiss your enemies like you know you should, then you jerk your body like a horny pony would." v.) Timbuk 3, "Sample the Dog" ["Eden Alley," label unknown] "There's a new age family down in North Caroline.. A dog named Jamaica, A daughter named China, A son that plays in a band, called Sample the Dog New age music on the stereo, Dust on the keys of the piano. And China's in the kitchen, tryin' to sample the dog. Sample the dog... (sounds of sampled dog, barking...)" w.) Frank Zappa, "Dirty Love" ["Overnight Sensation," label unknown] "Give me your dirty love Like you might surrender to some dragon in your dreams. Give me your dirty love Like a pink donation to some dragon in your dreams. I don't need your sweet devotion I don't want your cheap emotion Whip me up some dragon lotion for your dirty love. Give me your dirty love Like some tacky little pamphlet in your daddy's bottom drawer. Give me your dirty love I don't believe you never seen that book before. I don't need no consolation I don't want your reservation I only got one destination and that's your dirty love. Give me your dirty love Just like your mama make her fuzzy poodle do. Give me your dirty love The way your mama make that nasty poodle chew. I'll ignore your cheap aroma And your little-bo-peep diploma I'll just put you in a coma with some dirty love. THE POODLE BITES! (Come on, Frenchie) THE POODLE CHEWS IT! (Snap it!) THE POODLE BITES! (Come on, Frenchie) THE POODLE CHEWS IT! (Snap it!) [Continue to fade, including comments such as...] (Not a speck of cereal) (Nothin but the best for my dog!) (Little paws stickin' up) (Little curly head) x.) The Fugs, "Homemade/My Baby Done Left Me (And I Feel Like Homemade Shit)" ["Golden Filth: The Best of the Fugs (Reprise)," label unknown] In this hilarious spoof of country weepers, Ed Sanders sings about all the things he is willing to do if only "Claire June" will come back, one of which is "Gonna give up heifer fuckin'" y.) Nine Inch Richards, "Closer" ["Closer to Hogs," Shock Records (PO Box 434, Richmond 3121, Australia)] From what I've been told this album contains quite a few little gems but some of the more interesting send up's I've been told of include lines like; "Did I tell you I knew Lassie...personally?!", "I really go for a cow in tight leather" and, "You know I reckon Noah's Ark would have been just like the Love Boat." On the insde of the CD jacket the disclaimer reads, "It is not our intention to promote wanton sex with animals. (We believe that an emotional component is necessary for successful relationships between consenting animals." z.) John Denver, "Grandma's Feather Bed" ["Back Home Again," RCA] "It was nine feet high and six feet wide, soft as a downy chick. It was made from the feathers of fourty-'leven geese, took a whole bolt of cloth for a tick. It'd hold eight kids and four hound dogs and a piggie we'd stole from the shed. We didn't get much sleep but we had a lot of fun on grandma's feather bed." aa.) The Allman Brother's Band, "Midnight Rider" ["Idlewild South," "A Decade of The Allman Brother's Band," "Beginnings"] [label(s) unknown] Although not truly a zoo'ish song, it was brought to my attention that this was as perfect a 'Fence Jumper's Anthem' as you could find! So the Allmans have earned themselves an honourable mention "But I'm not gonna let 'em catch me, no, Not gonna let 'em catch the midnight rider." =================================<B - ART>=================================== 1 - The performing arts - ------------------- a.) Equus, by Peter Shaffer This play, which was later portrayed on the silver screen, is the story of a young man who is troubled by his love of a horse. Told through the eyes of his shrink, it's representation of zoos is not top notch but is still a great read or a good way to kill a Sunday afternoon if it just so happens to wind up in your local playhouse. 2 - On the silver screen - -------------------- "I could dance with you until the cows come home. On second thought, I'd rather dance with the cows." Groucho Marx in "Duck Soup" "Because he only -talked- to the animals!" Rex Harrison in "Dr. Doolittle" a.) Ace Ventura, Pet Detective Jim Carrey stars as a doggie detective in this 1994 comedy. Zoo'ish eyebrow raisers include the line, "You really love animals, don't you? Only when it's cold enough." and various other hints. IMNSHO, a kind of stupid movie but worth the watch for the zoo implications. b.) Four Weddings And A Funeral In this 1994 British comedy, Tom, a relative of main character played by Hugh Grant, confesses his love of a beautiful female Labrador Retriever late in the movie. Also featured are plenty of 'Scotsman and Sheep' jokes throughout. Ending credits feature wedding photos of Tom, the distant cousin who he marries, and the Labrador An excellent movie, with or without the zoo references! c.) Jackson County Jail This 1970's action / adventure film features a clip in the beginning where our heiroine, a female ad. exec., is showing a clip of a commercial for a woman's sanitary napkin to a bunch of male CEOs. The commercial shows a woman riding a horse. The head CEO says the commercial is blatantly sexual by noting, "We can't show that! You know what they say about women and horses." d.) Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex, (But Were Afraid To Ask) In this popular Woody Allen comedy, Gene Wilder discusses his love of a pretty little sheep with a psychiatrist, who later conducts his own affair with her! The whole movie is a good laugh but this part has always been the highlight for me e.) Terminator Though not exactly the movie I was expecting to have a zoo reference in it either, I was recently reminded of Sgt. Vokuvich's (played by Lance Hendrikson) statement to Lieutenant Traxler (played by Paul Winfield) while watching the police department shrink interview Kyle Rees, (played by Micheal Beihn), "That Silverman really cracks me up. Last week he had some guy in here who was having sex with his Alsation." Unfortun- ately, Traxler was quick to shut him up before he could finish the story f.) Airplane, The Movie "...you know what it means when Sparky rubs up against your leg?" asked the ever ambitious Captain Over, before coming down with fish poisoning. Oh, and don't forget the captain's wife in bed with the horse. Remember, it's dangerous to smoke in bed, even if you're doing it after having sex with your horse. g.) Padre Padrone This is the story of a young boy growing up in Sicily, I think. Watch out for the "talking sheep." h.) A Zed and Two Noughts Director Peter Greenaway's classic study of death, decay and zebras. The zoophilia references flow think and fast and some are about as subtle as a basebal bat to the head 3 - Glued to the tube - ----------------- a.) Cheers, "Back home in Indiana" Sam: "Okay--I don't know about Indiana, but around here when guys get together to send another guy to his doom, things can get a little raunchy." (Cliff snickers) Woody: (Seriously) "You fellas ever dress up farm animals in women's clothing?" Sam: (Does a double-take) "...No." Woody: (Smirking) "Well then, I'm one up on you." 4 - Hangin' on the wall - ------------------- -=<THIS SECTION STILL UNDER CONTRUCTION>=- ================================<C - LITERATURE>============================= 1 - On the ASBest Sellers List - -------------------------- Title: The Horseman: Obsessions of a Zoophile Author: Mark Matthews Publisher: Prometheus Books, 1994 ISBN: 0-87975-902-X Learn how one person acquired a sexual and emotional attraction towards horses. Included are sections of the damage done by attempting to deny the existence and strength of the author's urges, the final confrontation with self, and the regrowth which came with self-discovery. _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: Dearest Pet - on Bestiality Author: Midas Dekkers [translated from the Dutch by Paul Vincent] Publisher: Verso, 1994 ISBN: 0-86091-462-3 Price: $29 A detailed study of the way humans have related sexually and socially to animals, accompanied by interesting artwork from prehistory to modern times, and discussions of how human/animal relationships have been viewed by different cultures. Essential reading! _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: The Beast Within - Animals in the Middle Ages Author: Joyce E. Salisbury Publisher: Routledge, 1994 ISBN: 0-415-90769-1 Price: 12 pounds Sterling Explores historical human attitudes towards animals including religious, social, economic and sexual aspects. 25-page chapter specifically on animal sexuality. A rather 'scientific' book, with close-typed text and many references, but worthwhile reading if you wish to place current attitudes to zoophilia in a historical context. _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: Encyclopedia of Unusual Sex Practices Author: Brenda Love Publisher: Barricade Books ISBN: 1-56980-011-1 Price: $22. This book is 322 pages covering anything you can think of and lots of things you've never heard about. Includes a detailed section on zoophilia and bestiality. _____________________________________________________________________________ Titles: Image of the Beast and Blown Author: Philip Jose Farmer. Publisher: Unknown ISBN: Unknown Price: Unknown Written apparently when he was hard up for a few dollars. Excellent erotic SF with lots of shapeshifing aliens. Some nice wolf-humping in these, especially the first one. Worth having in your collection. _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: Motherlines Author: Suzy McKee Charnas Publisher: Unknown ISBN: Unknown Price: Unknown Feminist SF of the worst possible kind; trite, poor science and with a chip on its' shoulder the size of the World Trade Center. There is some horse / woman bestiality in it but it's about as erotic as a brick. Some disturbing scenes of horse slaughter. We recommend avoidance of this total cowpat of a book. _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: Easy Travel to Other Planets Author: Ted Mooney Publisher: Unknown ISBN: Unknown Price: Unknown Woman / Dolphin scene early on, rest of the book is semi stream of con- ciousness ramble that doesn't make much sense but looks nice in print. Dolphin dies at the end. We recommend you read up to the bit where woman and dolphin have sex (about page 16) and then give up. _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: The Woman Who Escaped From Shame Author: Unknown Publisher: Unknown ISBN: Unknown Price: Unknown Odd things going on to the backdrop of evil South American porn barons and a kidnapped mini-horse. A very nice horse/horse mating scene in this one plus some bestiality overtones elsewhere. Some may find the cruelty depicted to horses in certain passages disturbing. Worth a read if you like authors having a metaphysical wank every 20 pages or so. _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: Idols of Perversity, fantasies of feminine evil in fin-de-siecle culture Author: Bram Dijkstra Publisher: Unknown ISBN: Unknown Price: Unknown Images of sexuality in turn of the century art. One chapter focuses entirely on depictions of zoophilia and bestiality. It seems that there were a lot of artists quite facinated by the subject. Artists in this collection of part- icular interest are Felicien Rops and Franz vos Stuck. _____________________________________________________________________________ Title: Cradle of Erotica Authors: Allen Edwardes and R.E.L. Masters Publisher: Bantam paperback ISBN: 0-553-10301-6 Price: Unknown There are two references to bestiality in the index of this books. The first appears on page 15 and reads as follows; (4) Whoever would like to think of such cruelly bestial practices are peculiarily Oriental will have to resist the temptation (and re- linquish the pleasure). [Author's note: referring to the practice of wringing the birds neck at the monent of ejaculation to get the pleasurable benefit of the anal sphincter's last spasms in the victim.] The West has a long and extensive history of indulgence in such activities, including the particular one cited. De Sade for example, related that the practice was known and provided for in the Parisian brothels of his day, where the act was termed avisodomy, and the bird employed was the turkey. It is still possible to debate the origins of avisodomy, and some have credited the Chinese being its originators. But even here the evidence is insufficient. The second reference, also a footnote, appears on page 224 and reads as follows; A carryover from page 223 in which reference is made to a belief by the Muslims of Morocco. Fathers encourage anal and vaginal copulation with a donkeys to make the penis grow big and strong. Masturbation is scorned in favor of bestiality. (8) Historically, bestiality has commonly been put to more theraputic uses in the West, especially as a remedy for venereal diseases (to which end it is also employed by Muslims). Europeans have further attempted by bestiality to cure cases of satyriasis and nymphomania. And aging males, brooding regretfully over their declining virile powers, have also sought to find in intercourse with various beasts an improvement of their potency -- a search sometimes crowned with temporary success, since any novel erotic act may in some cases, and for a time, revive flagging appetites and capacities. 2 - Poetry and Prose - ---------------- -=<THIS SECTION STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION>=- 3 - Opera - ----- a.) "Rosa," written by Peter Greenway Although we're still hunting for someone who has heard or read this opera, I've been told be a very reliable source that it's about zoo- philia. I'll be petitioning the New York Opera to put on a performance this season ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======== Newsgroups: alt.sex.bestiality Subject: FAQ (6/9) [How To; Equines] From: kayotae@eden.rutgers.edu (Kayotae Erik Blackwolf) Date: 17 Jun 1995 01:55:47 -0400 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part Six; How To; Equines] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This section written by Equuinox (equuinox@worf.netins.net) ] ================<A - HOW TO HAVE MORE FUN WITH YOUR STALLION>================ So-o-o-o, maybe you've thought about trying to make it with a stallion...after all, they sure look like a good time. Here's a few tips on how to make the experience more rewarding for both of you. 1) Find a stallion: preferably somewhere where no one will hear him grunting and snorting, and come to investigate...Older stallions are better; they are more sensible, and less likely to spaz out and hurt someone. Don't even bother with the ones who are half-crazy already, they only get worse when stimulated. 2) The Approach: Quietly walk up to about 10' from him and stop. Let him come to you to investigate. Move very slowly, so as not to startle him, and let him sniff you over...gently pet his neck and withers and murmer encouraging words -win his trust-. At this point it is helpful to smell like a mare in heat...it does wonders for their libido. 3) Smell like an estrus mare: Find a mare in heat, usually 5-6 days out of every 21 (i know it aint that easy). Approach as in 2) above...pet her flanks and work your way slowly back to rub her tush, and base of her tail. Watch her ears...if she resents this contact she will flatten them back, and swish her tail...further pursuit could lead to being kicked. If the mare does not seem to object, GENTLY dip a finger into her vulva, getting her natural aroma on your hands...some mares will not cooperate and move away from the contact... remember, that is their choice. If the mare tolerates your advances, continue to massage her privates...if she really responds well (by raising her tail and squatting), you can try...oh, yeah...that's for my followup article soon to come "How to have more fun with your mare" 4) Restraint: yes, it's a good idea. Some studs get overly excited and react by kicking, biting and/or trying to mount you, all of which are no fun unless yer into S and M too...(although a quick nip on the rump can be fun). Take a halter and lead rope and tie him to a stout object using a slipknot...you do know how to tie a slipknot, don't you? If not, see yer local cub scouts for lessons. The reason for the slipknot is to be able to release him instantly if there's a problem. 5) The Rub: Let the stallion smell the nice, fresh mare odor on your hands- he should respond with snorts, whinneys and (hopefully) an erection. Starting with his neck, pet him gently, massaging his withers and slowly working your way back to his belly and privates. Some studs will get kinda twitchy at this point, swish their tails and kick- stay close to his body, and away from his rear to be safe...avoid being mashed into the stall walls by his body. If he starts to act up quit immediately, calm him down, and start again from the beginning of this step. 6) Clean and Jerk: Unless the horse is seeing active service his penis is probably covered with a layer of smegma, dead skin flakes, etc...it doesn't taste great, nor is terribly useful for lubricating purposes. Wash him up with clean water or -gently- rub the accumulations from his shaft. Apply lube.. K-Y works well. I've found its best to rub the shaft till he's fully-erect, then transfer your attention to the head of the penis. Maintaing a steady pressure on the sensitive glans penis, let him do the thrusting...they usually won't come unless they can thrust-meet his strokes with your own movements. Use your own shameless imagination from this point...again being careful of kicks, love-bites, etc. ========================<B - HELPFUL TIPS; STALLIONS>======================== 1) Wear steel-toed boots to protect your toes from being stomped on. 2) Most Stallions quickly learn to enjoy this stuff, and will come to bug you for more in the future. If they resent this type of contact, don't try to force it or you risk getting creamed...I've seen 'em kick a stall door clean off its hinges 3) A little lube is helpful...i usually carry a 3:2 mix of KY and water in a contact lens cleaner bottle... a little more discreet than big tubes of KY. 4) DO NOT get under him or stick yer face down there unless you absolutely know and trust him...some stallions will try to lie down on top of you (squii-i-ish!), or kick suddenly and cost you a lot of expensive dental work. 5) Wear a safety helmet- I know it sounds weird, but their hooves are like rocks and can easily crush your skull. A broken head can ruin a friendship, so its a good idea to wear a helmet (of course, if you get caught playing with him you'd look REALLY SILLY wearing a helmet but "better safe than dead" Ialways say). 6) Did he come? Well, when a staliion comes, the tip of his penis (the glans) swells up (flares) into a mushroom shape the size of your fist or bigger... he'll thrust a couple more times then ejaculate 3-4 ounces of semen with enough force to shoot 5 feet. His semen is whitish and runny like eggwhite... do not confuse with pre-ejaculate, which is watery and clear....he will drip copious amounts of this before he comes. NOTE: Those of you into anal/vaginal sex...do NOT attempt to put his penis into you unless you can already accomodate something the size of a human arm and fist...you risk rupture, and peritonitis if he's too big (plus it'd be real hard to explain what happened to the emergency room staff :>) ALWAYS REMEMBER: A stallion is an unpredictable animal...he may be fine one minute, then explode into 1200 pounds of biting, kicking horseflesh. He may be enjoying himself but he doesn't know his own strength and can disable or kill you without meaning to. If you aren't familiar with the proper handling of equines I strongly urge you to find someone who does to help you the first time (I know that's tough to do, but its for both of your safeties). DISCLAIMER: I've been having fun with equines for 14 years, and I've never been hurt badly...just bruises, ya gotta play by their rules...This Guide is not meant to be all-encompassing. The author of this article DOES NOT encourage you the reader to to perform illegal activities (including trespassing) in the pursuit of your pleasure. This article may be freely reproduced as long as I get credit for it. ==================<B - HOW TO HAVE MORE FUN WITH YOUR MARE>================== Well, maybe you tried the stallion, and mebbe you haven't. This article is for those of you who might be interested in mares, but haven't had the opportunity to make the most out of the situation... 1) Find a Mare: Easier said than done, sometimes! Locate a likely recipient to your advances and get to know her...spend lots of time scratching her withers and tickling her, share breath and build her trust with you-even the most receptive mares won't have anything to do with someone they don't feel at ease with. Get to know her on a more personal level. 2) Determine if she's in heat: Most (not all, but most) mares are totally unreceptive to sexual advances when they are not in estrus. In mares the cycle is 21 days on average...16 out, then 5-6 days in, with the mare getting progressively more "hot" till she ovulates and goes out of heat about 12 hours later. Most mares will not go out of their way to show estrus signs to humans unless already accustomed to sexing with them. The best way to get her to show signs is by exposing her to a stallion or particularly randy gelding. This is caused "teasing" the mare in the breeding business, and is when the stallion does his screaming, snorting, prancing thing to show off...just like many college freshmen. The estrus mare should respond by raising her tail, squatting and emitting a stream of urine. She will also "wink" at you...by contracting her vaginal muscles and exposing her clitoris. Wink...wink...wink. ..you get the idea. The clitoris in the mare looks like a half-dollar-size replica of the stallions glans penis...it is located at the bottom of the vaginal opening. The mare will usually stand quietly in the squatting position until bred. If the mare responds to the stud by laying her ears back, biting, kicking, etc. ..it's a pretty safe bet to say she's not in heat and you should try again later. Since some folks don't have access to stallions, there are some other signs of estrus including: A) Their labia tend to get fuller and looser...if you pull them apart (carefully, don't get kicked!) you will see that the vaginal lining is cherry-red, in contrast to its normal ruddy pink color. There will also be greater-than-usual amounts of lubrication present. B) The cervix is loose and drapes down in folds when in estrus...when not, it's tight and budlike in appearance... (this one's no good unless you have access to and know how to use a vaginal speculum...ask yer vet to show you a cervix sometime... it looks like a little pink flower). C) Some inexperienced mares will even respond to a human's advences if you can role-play well...sniff at her rump, snort, "bite" her flanks by pinching gently (or just go on ahead an' bite her!), tickle her and massage her external genitalia...mebbe gently insert a finger or three...if she responds, then she's ready -if she puts up a fuss or tries to walk away then leave her be. She's obviously not interested, and further attention of that nature will probably just piss her off and make her resent future advances. However, if she seems to like what's going on you may then... 3) Proceed with Caution: Lube up and. using your fingers, tongue or any other portion of your anatomy that feels good to you both, proceed to pleasure her... move in and out of her with deep, slow strokes. I have noticed that the "hot spot" in mares is not the clitoris, but about 2-3 inches in on the bottom wall of the vagina just anterior (towards her head) to the urethral opening- they respond very favorably to massage there. It is possible to (gently!) insert your arm into her and slowly fist her, feeling how beautifully warm, soft and slippery her pussy is (my mare LOVES this). When they are ready to be bred they will usually be quite loose inside, and it's possible to reach all the way to the back wall of the vagina and her cervix. As you stimulate her she will then begin to slowly clamp down on your arm with her vagina. Move with the contractions and you will find her squeezing harder and harder as she approaches orgasm (yes, contrary to some studies I've read, mares DO experience orgasm, and how!). She will often squeeze with enough force to push your arm right back out...don't try to jam it back in or you could injure her...just continue to use your hand to massage the vestibule of the vagina as she contracts harder and harder. At this point my mare will usually begin to grunt in time to the contractions (sounds like OOOF!) until her climax is over, then she will pull away. Maregasm is usually accompanied by a stream of urine and natural lubricants, so be careful not to get soaked unless you're also into water sports. *Personal note for the morbidly curious* I usually work my mare with my hand to the point where she starts to contract, then climb on up and use my penis to finish the job...it feels great when they clamp down...they have amazing muscle control. When they are done coming they will usually pick themselves up and move away for a bit, then be ready to go again in five minutes or so. I have whiled away many a happy hour bringing my mare to orgasm over and over...they have incredible stamina and it's fun for both of us. When you're both done, give her a pat on the neck, thank her and talk nice to her- don't just take what you want and leave...cuz if yer nice she'll remember you and be even more receptive next time. ==========================<C - HELPFUL TIPS; MARES>========================== 1) Wear heavy boots to protect your toes. 2) Keep in close to her body...if she decides to kick you'll be harder to hit, and you can feel her tense-up before she decides to let ya have it. 3) It's a _real_ good idea to wash your hands and the mare's pubes before you go putting things into her...dirt/feces can carry bacteria that can cause her some real problems...use a mild soap like Ivory(tm) Liquid, and plenty of clean water to rinse...most mare's natural defenses can take care of the problem on their own, but there's no sense taking risks with her health if they can be avoided. 4) File your fingernails short n' smooth...a mare's vagina is very delicate, and it's easy to injure her if you're not careful. Don't put any foreign objects in her, either...no carrots or anything like that! 5) NEVER, EVER stick anything into/through her cervix- you can give her a nasty uterine infection, and if she=D5s pregnant breaking the cervical plug means a high probability of aborting the foal, as well as complications for the mare. 6) In the Northern Hemisphere about 90% of mares will go completely out of heat between the months of Nov-Mar. This is called seasonal anestrus, and is a natural response to a decreased photoperiod. Putting them under artificial lighting can help hasten return to normal estrus cycles...there are a number of good texts on the subject. 7) Oh, yeah...If she's a big mare, you will need a bucket or stool to stand on. ..of course, you knew that :>) *dodges thrown tomatoes* 8) Be careful not to get hurt...horses can be unpredictable. DISCLAIMER: This Guide is not meant to be all-encompassing...Mail me if you have questions. ..The author of this article DOES NOT encourage you, the reader to perform illegal activities (including trespassing) in the pursuit of your pleasure. BE SAFE--BE CONSIDERATE--HAVE FUN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======== Newsgroups: alt.sex.bestiality Subject: FAQ (7/8) [How To; Canines] From: kayotae@eden.rutgers.edu (Kayotae Erik Blackwolf) Date: 17 Jun 1995 02:03:49 -0400 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part Seven; How To; Canines] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------<A. GUIDE TO SEX WITH BITCHES>------------------------- 1 - Getting Started - --------------- The female dog normally comes on her first heat between the ages of nine and fifteen months. Attempting intercourse with her at this time is not recommended since these changes in her biochemistry are confusing enough without having you trying to do wierd things to her. I would strongly suggest waiting until her second heat if all appears normal. 2 - The right bitch for you - ----------------------- As a rule of thumb, a dog the size of your average German Shepherd Dog is large enough to comfortably accomodate your average sized human male. However, this is not always true. I will go into further detail about signs of discomfort and warning signs later. Saint Bernards, Great Danes, Newfoundlands and other huge breeds should have no problems accomodating a human male. 3 - Prepararation is the key! - ------------------------- In preparing to have sex with your dog, you'll need to run down to the local drug store and pick up a few things. Namely; KY Jelly, (do NOT use a petro- leum or oil based lubricant.). Wet and Astro Glide, both of which can be found at your local adult shop, work as well. Also, if you're near a medical or veterinary supply, surgical lubricants are good too; latex gloves. If you're going to be messing around with a stray dog or a dog you do not own it doesn't hurt to rubber up! You can get infections or a fever from bitches with vaginal infections or brucellosis, (see the Health section of the F.A.Q. for more information on this topic); condoms. If sharing a dog or picking up a stray, protect yourself. Although dogs do not carry AIDS, it has been theorized that the virus could survive long enough inside a bitches' vagina long enough for you to contract it, or anything else, if you have sex with her immediately after an infected person. Remember also that if she has a yeast or bacterial infection, you could get it too; surgical soap. If you know the bitch is in good health and you'd like to insert whatever strikes your fancy into her, I recommend you clean it thoroughly. A bitches' vagina is a very vascular area and, especially when in heat, is quite susceptable to infection; nail clippers. Nails could carry dirt on them or scratch the delicate inner lining of a bitches' vagina. Cut them nails down and file them. You'll also look stunning with your new manicure :); and lastly, MilkBones! Buy these with everything else if you really want to squick the counter people 4 - In the trenches - --------------- Once you've got your bitch and your supplies, it's time to get to work. I do not suggest attempting sex with a bitch out of season, especially if she is not your dog. You may wind up getting bit, which may mean changing your name to John Wayne Bobbitt. A bitch in heat is your best bet, but just because she's wet and smells nice doesn't mean she's 'in the mood.' How can you tell if she's in the mood? Check the discharge. The discharge of a bitch in 'Standing Heat' should be pinkish / creamy white. This cycle lasts for between seven and nine days and is in the middle of the complete heat cycle. If the discharge is a dark, blood red, she's just coming into or going out of heat. It never hurts to try but DO NOT force her. She may say no the first time. Bitches are known to tease and may jump forward or fall over in front of you. However, if she reacts hostily to you, STOP IMMEDIATELY. Definate signs that a bitch is receptive are; Flagging--raising of the tail over the back exposing the genitals, Soliciting--rubbing her butt in your crotch, sitting on your face, etcetera, and Play Posing--being excessively playful, jubilant, etcetera. Once you're both consenting, you may consider some foreplay. Fingering her will bring you both hours of joy and amusement The bitches' "clitoris" is located about 3/4-1" (in large breeds) into the vagina. The clitoral ridge is fairly prominant so easy to find. Rubbing this will cause her to start thrusting and she'll love you for every moment of it. If she's your dog or if you're certain she's healthy, you may want to engage in some 'puppylingus.' Most bitches have a bitter-sweet taste when in standing heat and I definately recommend the aroma. With all teasing done, it's time to start your engines! The vagina of a female dog takes a sharp turn upward so you will have to enter from a seventy-five to eighty degree angle. The average body temperature of a dog is 101-102 degrees Fahrenheit so expect her to very hot and moist. I don't believe I need to tell you what to do from here on in <grin>. Enjoy! 5 - Out of heat and spayed bitches - ------------------------------ If the bitch is your own you may want to try her out of heat. The same rules apply except be sure and use an excessive amount of lube and be very careful. You can do a lot of damage if you try and force her and that'll be a difficult one to explain to the vet. Most spayed bitches cannot have intercourse because of the removal of their reproductive organs. They do not come into heat and very few show interest in sex. You can try 'fingering' a spayed bitch of 'puppylingating' her but intercourse is strongly advised against unless you have extensive experience. 6 - Anal Sex - -------- The same rule of thumb for size applies to anal sex as well. There are some dogs that like anal sex, others that tolerate it, and those that can't stand it. Most dogs will not be immediately comfortable with anal sex but if you choose to continue, instructions on how to do so follow. If your dog reacts with an expression of pain or anger, STOP IMMEDIATELY. Your dog is not suited for anal intercourse. Start by touching the anal area of your dog and let them get comfortable with it. Do not dive right in and insert anything. Wait until they freely alow you to touch under their tail. Be patient. While touching around their tail, wear gloves. Numerous worms and bacteria which can cause a variety of illnesses can be found in dog feces. NEVER MAKE ORAL CONTACT WITH A DOG'S ANUS. The result could be a nasty infection or a case of tape, ring, or hookworms, among others. Once your dog is comfortable with you feeling around their anus, try inserting a VERY well lubricated, gloved finger. Do this over and over again until your dog seems comfortable with it. Once again, if your dog seems to be in pain or react violently, STOP and DON'T try again. Gradually increase the number of gloved, well lubricated fingers you use until the number of fingers inserted comfortably represents the width of your penis. You may then attempt anal intercourse with your dog. Remember; 1.) Not every dog enjoys anal sex. The majority do not, 2.) Always rubber up and never have oral contact with the anus and 3.) STOP IMMEDIATELY if your dog shows signs of pain or discomfort. If you notice worms in your dog's stool, bring your dog to the vet with a stool sample. Merry Matings! -----------------------<B. GUIDE TO SEX WITH DOGS>--------------------------- There are three types of sex possible with male dogs to be covered in this FAQ; anal, oral and docking. 1 - Anal sex with dogs; On the receiving end - ---------------------------------------- Most male dogs are more than happy to mount you and "fuck you silly." Some are less enthusiastic than others. There are dangers to being mounted by a male dog though. First, one must understand the anatomy of the male canine reproductive system. A dog's penis is unlike that of a human's. The appearance, texture and sensitivity are much different. Working from the tip back, the end of a dog's penis is somewhat blunt with a slight angle. It typically swells to it's greatest shaft width along the first 2/5 then gradually tapers until you reach the bulb at the base of the exposed, unsheathed penis. The bulb, (bulbous glandis) is a large swelling at the base of the penis which consumates the tie between a bitch and a dog during sex. On a German Shepherd Dog, it's normally about three to three and a half inches wide, a plenty good handful for most. If you're going to have sex with a male dog, the bulb and the Os Penis are your main concerns. The Os Penis is a bone inside the shaft of a dog's penis. If he gets overly excited and starts thrusting rapidly, you could get jabbed with it and, if you do, trust me, you won't sit comfortably for days. If you allow a dog to mount you there is a definate chance that you may tie with him--that the bulb, (also known as the knot) will swell inside of you and keep you two stuck together. If you do not prepare yourself, you could be in for fifteen to thirty minutes of agony. Start loosening yourself up using whatever you can fit up your anus. Graduated dildos work very well and are available at most adult stores. Wait until you are comfortable with at least a three inch circumference before taking on a dog. To get a dog to mount you, grasp his sheath gently and start rubbing the base of it, near his ballsac. He should, at that time, start thrusting. Some dogs will try and mount you right then and there. Remember, if it's his first time, he'll need some guidance. Even some old pro's need guidance. If he does not try to get on your back, try pulling him up and jerking him off as he 'stands' behind you. If he does not want to get on your back, try laying on your back, legs hanging off of a couch or bed, and have him lay on top of you, on your belly, and try it that way. Once you've got him to mount you, attempt to guide his penis into you. Remember, if he misses, that os penis can hurt. Once inside of you, you can lave most of what's left up to him. If he ties with you it is imperetive he NOT pull out of you until he starts getting softer. Otherwise, you may have one hell of a story to tell at the Emergency Room! Once tied, the dog will probably try and turn around so that you're butt to butt with him. This is an instinctual behaviour. If he starts trying to pull out or panics, grab whichever legs you can and try and hold him against you so he doesn't pull out. It is a very good idea to have someone else present the first time you tie a dog in case of an emergency. Sit back, enjoy fifteen to thirty minutes of elation, then, once he starts getting softer, let him pull out of you. Do not lick his penis or touch it with your bare hands. Not only will it be very sensitive but there will be bacteria on his penis that can make you ill. However, it will not affect him. For females... The same applies to females for anal and vaginal sex. Those females who have spoken up about vaginal sex with male dogs have both said volumes of praise about their canine companions and stated having little to no problem accomodating the bulb. Some dogs may not want to mount or show an interest in mounting. Others will never tie, only sit inside of you. There are also dogs that don't turn when they are, or are not, tied. It all depends on the individual dog. 2 - Anal sex with dogs; Giving - -------------------------- The same written in the section on bitches applies to dogs. Refer to Anal Sex (Number Six) above for further information. 3 - Oral sex with dogs; On the receiving end - ---------------------------------------- Some dogs are natural born lickers and will lick anything and keep licking until whatever their licking is raw. Others will never lick anything in their lives. Once again, dogs as individuals will each act differently in different situations. The best way to find out how your dog will react is to give it a shot. If your dog is not too enthusiastic about licking, try using gravy, peanut butter or any other treats you dog might enjoy. DO NOT use chocolate based products or chocolate as large amounts of chocolate can be toxic for dogs. Both males and females alike have testified to the pleasures to be derived from oral sex with dogs. 4 - Oral sex with dogs; Giving - -------------------------- A dog's penis is very sensitive so be careful when handling it. When exposed, the penis is prone to dry out if not constantly wet. Spit works well. Try and avoid smeering it on with your hand. Using your tongue is much more fun anyways To get a dog aroused, use the same process as described above. Grasp the sheath near it's base, close to the dog's ballsac, and start rubbing rapidly. You will be able to feel the bulb become more defined within the sheath and you must pull the sheath back before it get's too large to fit out the slit. Otherwise, your dog will be uncomfortable until his erection subsides. When thrusting, you can either take the dog's penis into your mouth or coninue to rub beind the knot. You must be very careful if you choose to take the dog's penis into your mouth, remembering how sensitive it is and keeping him from scraping his member on your teeth. Once fully erect, experiment! Most dogs will just stand and pant away happily as you lick, suck, or rub their cocks. Expect him to stay hard for five to fifteen minutes on average. Dog cum is quite tasty, usually bitter sweet, and continues to shoot from the time he's about half hard and coming out of his sheath to the time when he starts going back into his sheath. Refer to the chart below for semen volume counts. 5 - Oral sex with dogs; Neutered males - ---------------------------------- Most neutered males lack any interest in having sex. Some are capable of maintaining a half-erection for a short period of time and ejaculating prostatic fluid. If you encounter a neutered male and try masturbating him, stop if he seems uncomfortable. Some will be, some won't be, but don't expect a neutered male to behave like an un-neutered male. He won't. 6 - Docking - ------- Docking is the insertion of the penis into the sheath or muzzle of a dog. Once again, tolerance to these activities all depends on the dog. I normally strongly discourage docking muzzles. It is exceptionally danger- ous and could result in some hard to explain hospital visits. If docking the sheath, see how your dog reacts to having a well lubricated finger stuck in his sheath. If he doesn't seem to mind, try inserting several well lubricated fingers, one at a time, until you've adequately represented the width of your own penis. If he continues not to mind, you can try inserting your penis into his sheath. Be sure and use plenty of lube. You may want ot flush his sheath first with a water enema or a douche. There are a number of dead skin cells and bacteria inside the sheath which could cause urinary tract or other types of infections. Merry Matings! 7 - What does dog semen have in it? - ------------------------------- [ This section compiled by Dogzoo (dogzoo@teleport.com) ] Volume;============================ 7-10 cc with a variation from 0.5 to 20cc Water percentage;=========== 97% (highest of animals) vs. man at 90% (lowest) Contents; Ash, protein, lipids, potassium, sodium, calcium, magnesium, phosphorus, iron, chlorides, sulphur, amino acids, albumins, proteoses, nucleoproteins, mucin, albumoses, fat globules, thiamin, riboflavin, pantothenic acid, niacin, ascorbic acid, (Vitamin C) enzymes and fructose. Prostate fluid is highly alkaline, which neutralizes acids in the bitches' vagina. Naturally, larger dogs produce more semen than smaller breeds. Reference; "Vet obstetrics and genital diseases," S. Roberts, Edwards Brothers Publishing 8 - How large is a dog's penis? - --------------------------- [ This section compiled by Doglover (doglover@gears.efn.org) ] Breed________________Useable Length (inches)________________Diameter (inches) Cocker Spaniel====== 2.0-3 ================================ 0.5-1 Greyhound=========== 2.5-3 ================================ 0.5-1 Bulldog============= 2.5-5 ================================ 1 Dalmatian=========== 3-4.5 ================================ 1 Collie============== 4-5 ================================= 1 Labrador============ 4-6 ================================== 1 Irish Setter======== 4-6 ================================== 1 German Shepherd===== 5-7 ================================== 1.5 Great Dane========== 5-7 ================================== 1.5 Saint Bernard======= 7-9 ================================== 1.5-1.75 Mastiff============= 7.5 ================================== 1.5-1.75 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======== Newsgroups: alt.sex.bestiality Subject: FAQ (8/8) [Tanith's ScalySex FAQ] From: kayotae@eden.rutgers.edu (Kayotae Erik Blackwolf) Date: 17 Jun 1995 02:08:38 -0400 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alt.sex.bestiality F.A.Q., Version 5.70 Posted 15 June, 1995 [Part Eight; How To; ScalySex] Revised 15 June, 1995 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This section written by Tanith Tyrr (tanith@pleasure.com)] The newsgroup rec.pets.herp has excellent information on the proper care of reptiles. The FAQ's are particularly good, and might be of help if you are seeking to use snakes to enhance your love life. I'm actually not a bestality practicioner myself; I peeked into this newsgroup to post a warning about an ad hoaxer who had gotten to ALL of the alt.sex groups, and posted his sleazy 900 phone sex ad with MY mailbox as the return path....sigh....but I am a herpetologist, semi-professional, and I write for several publications about reptiles. I hope this information will be of help to people who are considering using reptiles for the purposes of sexual stimulation. Please be aware that penetration of a snake, penile or digital, will cause internal injury and harm to the delicate internal structures of the cloaca. Also, the immediate reptilian reaction to cloacal dilation and stimulation (sometimes done by veterinarians in the case of constipation) is to evacuate its bowels, which are full of gram-negative bacteria. Insertion of a reptile head into the vagina or anus will cause serious injury to the animal, as their skulls are comparatively fragile, and your muscular spasms will probably crush them. Though snakes can endure oxygn deprivation for much longer than mammals can, it is not recommended. Insertion of a reptile tail is not a problem for the reptile, but may be a problem for you. In many species, the scale structure is such that rubbing against the grain will erect the rough or cutting edges of the individual scales. One species comes notably to mind as being suited for use as a sexual "partner". Helodermus suspectum (the Gila Monster) has a thick tail that is ridged and bumpy, and unlike most lizards, its tail is sufficiently strong and muscular to support the weight of the animal. Individuals of this genus are notably docile and can be handled with ease once tamed. However, if a miscalculation is made and you stimulate the reptile to ite, this could obviously be a problem. Unfortunately for bestiality practicioners, no other lizard has a tail suitable for extensive handling. I am not, incidentally, kidding; I own a beautiful captive-bred pink phase Gila that is very docile and who would be an ideal partner for someone interested in such things. To anticipate the queries, no; I do not use this animal personally in that manner, and you may NOT borrow this valuable specimen. When I breed him, it will be to a female of his subspecies. Unless you can guarantee to lay viable h. suspectum eggs, you cannot mate with my lizard. Sorry. Boas are a generally docile (and more commonly kept) species, and their scales are not cross-grained. Tail insertion (the snake's tail into your orifice) is possible if the animal is a female and does not have the sharp ventral spurs that characterize a mature male. Almost all snke species are suitable for petting and friction; i.e, allowing to crawl around the body. Lizard's tails, with the exception of helodermus suspectum, are not suitable for sexual stimulation; but they also may be allowed to crawl on the body. Handling your reptile in a (responsibly) sexual manner is not abuse, as the reptile does not know or care whether it is crawling across your arm or your genitals. However, please be aware that many sexual acts depicted or written about involving reptiles IS abuse of the animal, and may injure it severely. I'm not being judgemental here; this is ha veterinary fact. Specifically, the prohibited acts are: - Penetrating the reptile's cloaca, - Inserting a reptile's head into your anus or vagina, - Restraining the animal and stressing it (making it squirm frantically) for extended periods of time or frequently (weekly or more often), - Insertion of a lizard's tail (except h. suspectum) in your anus/vagina. Though experienced herpetoculturists and veterinarians can probe-sex a specimen by inserting a tiny metal probe into its cloaca, this is a stressful experience for the reptile, and VERY DANGEROUS for the amateur to perform. The veterinarian I work with has seen numerous cases of injury, bowel ulceration and death on snakes that have been improperly probed by amateurs. In addition, a snake's cloaca is not safe for you to insert yourself into, as it is typically full of gram-negative and sometimes gram-positive bacteria in quantiti that do not necessarily harm the reptile, but that can make a human very ill. The additiion of cloacal spurs and sharp-edged scales in some species makes this very inadvisable indeed, if not downright self-punishing. Sexual acts that will NOT injure a reptile: - Friction of the reptile against your body, and - insertion of a docile, non-stressed snake's tail in your vagina or anus. Tail insertion warnings: many species have sharp scales, making them unsuitable for such uses. Do not, under any circumstances, insert a snake's tail in your anus or vagina beyond the cloacal opening, for two reasons; - Your muscular spasms may injure the reptile's internal organs, beyond that point. - A snake's defecate contains trace quantities of potentially harmful bacteria, most notably salmonella. Zoonoses (the transmission of disease from animal to human) is rare with reptiles, but when it does happen, fecal contamination is usually the cause. Even healthy specimens may have trace quantities of such bacterium present in their intestines. Almost any snake's response to being stimulated in the cloacal area is to defecate; so be aware of this. Condom use is a possibility to avoid fecal contamination. Serious questions will be answered if asked; though I do believe I have covered the full range of non-harmful sexual activities possible with reptiles. Personal questions will be ignored; to reiterate, I am a serious herpetologist, not a bestialitist. I don't judge what you do; I just offer guidelines for the sake of the reptiles' safety. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [This text is posted on the first and the fifteenth of every month] [Copies are available via email from kayotae@phantom.com] -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2. Sex guide with Bitches

    Looking through my stuff, I find that this was part of a much larger FAQ-PIP. The section specific to this passage shows as posted by Kayotae Erik Blackwolf, but he doesn't explicitly claim authorship. I have posted the complete document in Newsgroup Postings.
  3. WetSpot Leopard checking in

    Greetings, WetSpot! Nice to see a familiar name!
  4. wolf kisses

    Heheh.. I need some of that shampoo I think!
  5. Look what the dog dragged in..

    Thanks, Arctic! I don't think so either. The friend that made that remark is Korean. Heh.
  6. Look what the dog dragged in..

    Yo, E, what moniker did you use in the bad ol' days? I used to frequent Sleepy's Forest, ZOT, Pooppipes, errr.. PanPipes :3, and infrequently Lintillas and a couple of others.
  7. Look what the dog dragged in..

    Thank you! Us Cynologists need to stick together!
  8. Zoos who are missing from the community

    Shuunka, Wolfsong, and Tyger Cowboy are still around but use different identities.
  9. Look what the dog dragged in..

    Thank you, I'm not especially touchy-feely either, but hugs are definitely in order!
  10. Ebon Lupus

    You and I should chat sometime about our mutual friend. I miss him dearly, too.
  11. Look what the dog dragged in..

    Bugger off, bloody pom!
  12. Greetings, a few of you may remember me from way back when. I recognize a few old friends like RH, Hiway, and Silverwolf, and hope to make some new friends. I've been around since the mid 90s and have met many zoos in RL and online and lurked for sometime in the fandom. I have lot's of archival stuff written by others and may sift through the bits and pieces for the occasional gem to share with the forum. I'm a dog nerd. A friend once said, "You like doggy too much!" If he only knew..
  13. Ebon Lupus

    As some of you may know, Ebon Lupus pass away on or about May 28th, 2017. He was a rather out spoken individual and did not suffer fools lightly. He passed away of cardiac arrest after a life long struggle with diabetes at the age of 54.
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